Comic con

[tecboy]

It doesn't matter if these women decide to walk about naked covered in green jelly.

Ok, so where do I go to get tickets for that convention?

Lol

Don't forget your DSLR! LOL!

 

[EIngerson]

That's pretty much summed up my feelings on this too. It doesn't matter if these women decide to walk about naked covered in green jelly. Their appearance doesn't give anyone a justification for that kind of behavior.

For what kind of behavior? Taking photos?

 

[limr]

That's pretty much summed up my feelings on this too. It doesn't matter if these women decide to walk about naked covered in green jelly. Their appearance doesn't give anyone a justification for that kind of behavior.

For what kind of behavior? Taking photos?

Taking photos of underneath skirts, groping women, stalking them around the conference, harassing them, trying to fondle them. And apparently one woman was beaten up.

It goes beyond just a couple of cat calls, whistles, and staring at cleavage. Those things are annoying and if they happen constantly, they can be quite distressing. But if some douche nozzle tries to cop a feel and claim he was just trying to get a photograph, is that also acceptable? Just boys being boys? And the girls should expect that because they are wearing short skirts? Eff that. Some dude tries that on me, he'd be bleeding on the floor.

 

[limr]

One of many articles about it:
?Creeping at a con?: Sexual harassment at Comic-Con not so comic - The Washington Post

The women wearing skimpy costumes get a lot of attention in the media and one might think that any woman going to Comic Con is dressing that way, but many women, as tecboy showed, are quite covered up and they too are being harassed.

 

[tecboy]

Remeber at New York Central Park?

What?s to blame for the Central Park maulings? - Salon.com

 

[EIngerson]

Okay. I get what all of you are saying and let me first say, I agree. But I posted this thread specifically addressing "taking photos" being lumped into sexual harassment. Setting all the other acts and behavior aside.


My point was, it doesn't matter what you wear, guy or girl. If you go to Comic Con you are going to have your photo taken. The purpose for the photo, or the type of person taking the photo is irrelevant. Saying that having your photo taken at a public event such as Comic Con is sexual harassment is ridiculous. Wanted or not.

It's not what they're wearing that invites these photos to be taken, it's the venue they put themselves in.

 

[robbins.photo]

Some dude tries that on me, he'd be bleeding on the floor.

In related news today, the entire Jedi order was found lying in a large pool of their own blood, as well as several unidentified individuals dressed in what appeared to be bear suits. Witnesses to the horrific event could not identify the mystery woman who was apparently responsible for all of the carnage.

One witness, a 40 year old man who spoke only on the condition of anonymity, stated that he witnessed one of the Jedi making obscene gestures with his lightsaber, and then as he put it all hell broke loose. Most of the victims have yet to be identified, since all of their name tags read either Obi Wan or Qui-Gon.

When pressed for further details the witness declined to answer any further questions, stating that if he wasn't home in less than an hour his mom would lock the basement door and he'd be stuck sleeping in his tree house again.

More on this story as it develops

 

[tecboy]

Okay. I get what all of you are saying and let me first say, I agree. But I posted this thread specifically addressing "taking photos" being lumped into sexual harassment. Setting all the other acts and behavior aside.


My point was, it doesn't matter what you wear, guy or girl. If you go to Comic Con you are going to have your photo taken. The purpose for the photo, or the type of person taking the photo is irrelevant. Saying that having your photo taken at a public event such as Comic Con is sexual harassment is ridiculous. Wanted or not.

It's not what they're wearing that invites these photos to be taken, it's the venue they put themselves in.

Pretty much all cosplayers like to be photographed by photographers, iphone, cell phone, p&s, or whatever. Very rares, but a least one cosplayer refused to be photographed. Go to comic con or your nearest con and find out yourself.

 

[limr]

Okay. I get what all of you are saying and let me first say, I agree. But I posted this thread specifically addressing "taking photos" being lumped into sexual harassment. Setting all the other acts and behavior aside.


My point was, it doesn't matter what you wear, guy or girl. If you go to Comic Con you are going to have your photo taken. The purpose for the photo, or the type of person taking the photo is irrelevant. Saying that having your photo taken at a public event such as Comic Con is sexual harassment is ridiculous. Wanted or not.

It's not what they're wearing that invites these photos to be taken, it's the venue they put themselves in.

Oh, I totally agree on the simple picture-taking. It's a public venue and they're dressed unusually, so people are going to take pictures. I don't see any issue with that at all. And of course the pretty women wearing teeny outfits are going to be photographed more often. Probably the more handsome men get a lot more attention as well. It's the way of the world.

The petition and complaints, however, were about the behaviors that went well beyond, "Hey, that chick's in a costume, let's take a picture!" and it's apparently a problem for all the women at the conference. I'm not sure if they were lumping all picture-taking along with the other harassing behaviors, just the photos that are obviously lewd, like someone trying to shove the lens at cleavage or up someone's skirt. If they aren't clear in the article or the petition, then I think that's a case of imprecise language. If they're complaining about the kinds of pictures that tecboy was posting in this thread, then no, it shouldn't be lumped in with sexual harassment. But someone just following women around to get nothing but ass shots should be included in the complaint.

 

[EIngerson]

Pretty much all cosplayers like to be photographed by photographers, iphone, cell phone, p&s, or whatever. Very rares, but a least one cosplayer refused to be photographed. Go to comic con or you nearest con and find out yourself.

That sounds like an assumption that I haven't. Don't take this the wrong way, but I don't care who "wants" or "likes" their photos taken. The point is, their photo will be taken and it's not sexual harassment. Voluntary or involuntary.

 

[limr]

Some dude tries that on me, he'd be bleeding on the floor.

In related news today, the entire Jedi order was found lying in a large pool of their own blood, as well as several unidentified individuals dressed in what appeared to be bear suits. Witnesses to the horrific event could not identify the mystery woman who was apparently responsible for all of the carnage.

One witness, a 40 year old man who spoke only on the condition of anonymity, stated that he witnessed one of the Jedi making obscene gestures with his lightsaber, and then as he put it all hell broke loose. Most of the victims have yet to be identified, since all of their name tags read either Obi Wan or Qui-Gon.

When pressed for further details the witness declined to answer any further questions, stating that if he wasn't home in less than an hour his mom would lock the basement door and he'd be stuck sleeping in his tree house again.

More on this story as it develops

:mrgreen:

 

[IByte]

Taking photos of underneath skirts, groping women, stalking them around the conference, harassing them, trying to fondle them. And apparently one woman was beaten up.

It goes beyond just a couple of cat calls, whistles, and staring at cleavage. Those things are annoying and if they happen constantly, they can be quite distressing. But if some douche nozzle tries to cop a feel and claim he was just trying to get a photograph, is that also acceptable? Just boys being boys? And the girls should expect that because they are wearing short skirts? Eff that. Some dude tries that on me, he'd be bleeding on the floor.

That's a meme for POW, OOOF, BAM!!

 

[robbins.photo]

Taking photos of underneath skirts, groping women, stalking them around the conference, harassing them, trying to fondle them. And apparently one woman was beaten up.

It goes beyond just a couple of cat calls, whistles, and staring at cleavage. Those things are annoying and if they happen constantly, they can be quite distressing. But if some douche nozzle tries to cop a feel and claim he was just trying to get a photograph, is that also acceptable? Just boys being boys? And the girls should expect that because they are wearing short skirts? Eff that. Some dude tries that on me, he'd be bleeding on the floor.

That's a meme fowl POW, OOOF, BAM!!

Sounds like a job for Batman. The Adam West batman, that is - none of those other sissies - the gold star original. I'm sure he'll have some Bat-JackAss repellent somewhere in his utility belt.

 

[tecboy]

Pretty much all cosplayers like to be photographed by photographers, iphone, cell phone, p&s, or whatever. Very rares, but a least one cosplayer refused to be photographed. Go to comic con or you nearest con and find out yourself.

That sounds like an assumption that I haven't. Don't take this the wrong way, but I don't care who "wants" or "likes" their photos taken. The point is, their photo will be taken and it's not sexual harassment. Voluntary or involuntary.

Yea...but, but, but,.....I'm not assuming anything about you. The fact is sexual harassment did happen at comic con. These women have the right to speak up. Cosplay convention should be a safe place to have fun for both photographers and cosplayers.

 

[limr]

Taking photos of underneath skirts, groping women, stalking them around the conference, harassing them, trying to fondle them. And apparently one woman was beaten up.

It goes beyond just a couple of cat calls, whistles, and staring at cleavage. Those things are annoying and if they happen constantly, they can be quite distressing. But if some douche nozzle tries to cop a feel and claim he was just trying to get a photograph, is that also acceptable? Just boys being boys? And the girls should expect that because they are wearing short skirts? Eff that. Some dude tries that on me, he'd be bleeding on the floor.

That's a meme fowl POW, OOOF, BAM!!

Sounds like a job for Batman. The Adam West batman, that is - none of those other sissies - the gold star original. I'm sure he'll have some Bat-JackAss repellent somewhere in his utility belt.

Uh...do I seem like the kind of woman who needs a man to come to my rescue?? I can handle the jackasses myself, thankyouverymuch layball: