Do i have the right to be angry here

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By Jove, I think he's got it! :thumbup:

 

[Compaq]

Okay, here's my take on this:

Gents and ladies, you all need to calm down. I've read too many rude comments in here. We're a friendly community that helps when someone asks for it. What good does name calling do? Seriously, it's embarrassing to read!

If he is overcharging his work, and he is in danger of going bankrupt or something like that, then you should worry. You should also swallow your pride and not focus on your jealousy. Talk to him that he really needs to keep practising his photography before charging. Perhaps talk to his wife. I don't know, I don't know the guy. Anyway, a friend don't sit around watching friends do stupid things. Should the person improve quickly and deliver, then nothing is better.

You don't have a right to be mad, but I would feel something similar. When we invest a lot of time into a hobby, and thrive for perfection, it's not fun to see others drop out of a course and claim to be very skilled without being it. I would take it as an insult. But, anyway... one day you'll have your own shop

 

[lyonsroar]

I guess I'm just a little irked that I'm not the only one trying to be a photographer at my job. But seriously though how many people here has had someone act like photography is easy as taking snapshots. I guess I should stop being jealous and help him out with his shots. In the end it is an art and I've always said those who don't like to share their skills are dbags

Ha ha. Yeah, it kinda sucks when other people want to play photographer. I had to watch as the "photographer" at my place of employment used the pop up flash in an outdoor area trying to take a picture of a group of 250+ people. The pictures didn't turn out so great. That's okay though, I'm going to DL them off FlickR and edit them in my spare time... we'll see what she says when I send her the edits...

 

[Kbarredo]

I guess I'm just a little irked that I'm not the only one trying to be a photographer at my job. But seriously though how many people here has had someone act like photography is easy as taking snapshots. I guess I should stop being jealous and help him out with his shots. In the end it is an art and I've always said those who don't like to share their skills are dbags

Ha ha. Yeah, it kinda sucks when other people want to play photographer. I had to watch as the "photographer" at my place of employment used the pop up flash in an outdoor area trying to take a picture of a group of 250+ people. The pictures didn't turn out so great. That's okay though, I'm going to DL them off FlickR and edit them in my spare time... we'll see what she says when I send her the edits...

Lol no way. Does she use a pen light for continuous lighting.

 

[lyonsroar]

I guess I'm just a little irked that I'm not the only one trying to be a photographer at my job. But seriously though how many people here has had someone act like photography is easy as taking snapshots. I guess I should stop being jealous and help him out with his shots. In the end it is an art and I've always said those who don't like to share their skills are dbags

Ha ha. Yeah, it kinda sucks when other people want to play photographer. I had to watch as the "photographer" at my place of employment used the pop up flash in an outdoor area trying to take a picture of a group of 250+ people. The pictures didn't turn out so great. That's okay though, I'm going to DL them off FlickR and edit them in my spare time... we'll see what she says when I send her the edits...

Lol no way. Does she use a pen light for continuous lighting.

HA. IDK. She had the D3000 all decked out, brand new strap, kit lens, etc, carrying it around looking all important.

Thing is, all she had to do was ask if there were any photographers in the staff and I'd have been glad to help. I'm not great, but I'm better than that. I debated bringing my kit to this function, but decided against it. Maybe I should have...

 

[Kbarredo]

Ha ha. Yeah, it kinda sucks when other people want to play photographer. I had to watch as the "photographer" at my place of employment used the pop up flash in an outdoor area trying to take a picture of a group of 250+ people. The pictures didn't turn out so great. That's okay though, I'm going to DL them off FlickR and edit them in my spare time... we'll see what she says when I send her the edits...

Lol no way. Does she use a pen light for continuous lighting.

HA. IDK. She had the D3000 all decked out, brand new strap, kit lens, etc, carrying it around looking all important.

Thing is, all she had to do was ask if there were any photographers in the staff and I'd have been glad to help. I'm not great, but I'm better than that. I debated bringing my kit to this function, but decided against it. Maybe I should have...

yea you really need to start taking your camera and showing your work around or else u end up looking like the copy cat. That's what happened to me I never mentioned anything about my photography toanyone then my friend said he was a photographer and everyone asked if he could do jobs for them. When I said that I actually did photography for 2 years everyone looked at me like I was a copy cat

 

[Postman158]

I'm mainly worried because he put "Wedding Photography" on his page. Lol.

 

[GrantH]

Anyone can charge, the question is if he can deliver.
If he can't his customers will not be pleased.
If he can it doesn't care if he did any course whatsoever.
With no experience at all I'd say it's quite possible he'll fail on a shoot sometime soon.
That's not necessarily a bad thing for him as he could learn from it.
It could be a problem if the ones he's shooting paid him and sue him afterwards because he didn't deliver...
You might want to suggest him to practice for a while first.

I told him to practice first but he thinks hes good enough. I feel kinda insulted like he doesnt take photography seriously.

or maybe...he's a natural and is actually already fairly good. the market decides if your good or not, if they pay and enjoy it...your good. if not, your not. how i see it anyways.

 

[djacobox372]

It sounds like your buddy has the confidence and "guts" to make it as a pro. Haven't you ever heard of the phrase "fake it till you make it?"

 

[table1349]

Maybe this little story can explain how I feel about your particular situation.

A man arrives at a hotel at 3:00 a.m. to check in after missing his flight. He walks up to the counter, rings the bell and the hotel clerk comes out from her office, smoking a cigarette, to see who is ringing the bell at that time of the morning. After explaining that he missed his flight and that he has a reservation he makes the following observation.

Man -"You know smoking cigarettes is bad for your health."

Hotel Clerk -" My Grandma lived to be 98 years old."

Man - "From smoking cigarettes??"

Hotel Clerk - "No, from minding Her Own Damn Business!!!"


What does it really matter to you what this person does. Is it taking food out of you or your families mouth? The shelter from over your head? Clothes off their back? Money out of your pocket? They committing a crime or harming themselves or anyone else? Frankly sounds to me like you have enough issues of your own, you don't need to worry about someone else's issues. I say get over it and get on with your life.

 

[bentcountershaft]

I haven't paid enough attention while perusing this thread but I'd be playing the long game on this one assuming it isn't a real close friend. This guy may end up selling all the crap he buys over the next few months for cheap in about a year so I would concentrate on guiding his purchases to coincide with my future needs.

 

[fokker]

Lol no way. Does she use a pen light for continuous lighting.

HA. IDK. She had the D3000 all decked out, brand new strap, kit lens, etc, carrying it around looking all important.

Thing is, all she had to do was ask if there were any photographers in the staff and I'd have been glad to help. I'm not great, but I'm better than that. I debated bringing my kit to this function, but decided against it. Maybe I should have...

yea you really need to start taking your camera and showing your work around or else u end up looking like the copy cat. That's what happened to me I never mentioned anything about my photography toanyone then my friend said he was a photographer and everyone asked if he could do jobs for them. When I said that I actually did photography for 2 years everyone looked at me like I was a copy cat

Sounds like we have got to the root of your resentment here. You want to be recognised as being a superior photographer, instead you are viewed as an inferior pretender to the throne.
My advice: Just let him keep doing what he's doing, but don't feel the need to be embarrassed about telling people that you are a photographer as well. If people see your images and recognize that they are better than your newbie friend's (this is assuming that you actually are any good at photography, of course) then they will give you the respect that you seem to crave.

My old job, there were a couple of photographers as well. This was shortly after I had gotten seriously interested in photography, so it's not the same thing really, but I felt slightly self conscious about telling people at that work about my photography, mostly because I thought my photos were inferior. That was, until I saw some of the photos from one woman with her fancy Nikon at the company golf tournament, using her SB-600 with an omni-bounce outside on a sunny day...

I haven't paid enough attention while perusing this thread but I'd be playing the long game on this one assuming it isn't a real close friend. This guy may end up selling all the crap he buys over the next few months for cheap in about a year so I would concentrate on guiding his purchases to coincide with my future needs.

Actual lol. I like your angle on that one.

 

[fokker]

Although, I think you might have a hard time competing against shots and processing like this wee gem: Unlimited Photography's Photos - Portfolio | Facebook

 

[ghache]

The only thing i have to say is that you talk him down like that, 5 days ago you were asking how to control ambient light using a flash, in my book someone for someone who is into photography for more than 2 years, you didnt learn much and this tells me you are just jealous.

 

[Kbarredo]

The only thing i have to say is that you talk him down like that, 5 days ago you were asking how to control ambient light using a flash, in my book someone for someone who is into photography for more than 2 years, you didnt learn much and this tells me you are just jealous.

I never had the money to buy off camera flash so all my lighting was natural or continous. I'm still learning.
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