Do i have the right to be angry here

manaheim · May 20, 2011

Oh god, this tired old theme. Zzzzzzzzzz...

You can be angry any time you like, not that it'll do you any good.

Ryan L · May 20, 2011

It's just too late at this point. He has the Facebook page, He has the logo, HE IS PRO. If you can't beat em', join him. Maybe he will take you on as his assistant to carry all his new gear, and when he feels your ready you can be his 2nd shooter.

Derrel · May 20, 2011

It's time to simply just Let It Be!

photocist · May 20, 2011

why is this even an issue

mjhoward · May 20, 2011

How can someone that adds fake bokeh in PP not go pro !?! Every good photography knows that fake bokeh is better than real bokeh. Duh.

Stryker · May 21, 2011

Kapatid, to answer your question, HELL NO. You have no right to get angry. He took on line tutorials, he has better equipment than you, and to top it all, he has more guts than you. There are things you may not know about him. Maybe he joined a camera club and is busy doing photoshoots. Maybe he is inside a library reading some books you might havent read. Maybe, he is outside doing night scapes and doesn't care much about shutter counts as you read this note.

I am also a filipino, very thrifty and would always look at some reviews before I spend my money on some photo equipment. But here's something I want you to know. I started photography July 2010. Bought my first 50D not knowing what that black box can do. I joined a camera club, hung out with photo enthusiasts, joined photowalks, read books by Scott Kelby, and watched some vids of Bryan Peterson. Hell, after 12 months and about 35thousand shutter counts, I could say I am a lot better than you. And I did my first paid corporate event shoot on my 6th month.

Did I insult you? That was not my intention. Did I challenge you? Yes, to do better. Practice, read, practice, read, and practice some more. Compare your shots with the other pros and get pointers from them. Jealousy wont get you nowhere. Who knows, maybe in 6 months you'll get better C&C and a much better photographer than most of us here.

Practice lang yan, kapatid. :thumbup:

Kbarredo · May 21, 2011

Stryker said:
Kapatid, to answer your question, HELL NO. You have no right to get angry. He took on line tutorials, he has better equipment than you, and to top it all, he has more guts than you. There are things you may not know about him. Maybe he joined a camera club and is busy doing photoshoots. Maybe he is inside a library reading some books you might havent read. Maybe, he is outside doing night scapes and doesn't care much about shutter counts as you read this note.

I am also a filipino, very thrifty and would always look at some reviews before I spend my money on some photo equipment. But here's something I want you to know. I started photography July 2010. Bought my first 50D not knowing what that black box can do. I joined a camera club, hung out with photo enthusiasts, joined photowalks, read books by Scott Kelby, and watched some vids of Bryan Peterson. Hell, after 12 months and about 35thousand shutter counts, I could say I am a lot better than you. And I did my first paid corporate event shoot on my 6th month.

Did I insult you? That was not my intention. Did I challenge you? Yes, to do better. Practice, read, practice, read, and practice some more. Compare your shots with the other pros and get pointers from them. Jealousy wont get you nowhere. Who knows, maybe in 6 months you'll get better C&C and a much better photographer than most of us here.

Practice lang yan, kapatid. :thumbup:

I don't know tagalog I'm cebuano. Second its been 2 years on and off I didn't get serious until I got my d 5k in september. Second my problem isn't that he is better its that he DOESN'T do any book reading or clubs and wants to get paid. I'm comparing shots with pros that's why I'm here I want to learn. He refuses to learn he just wants to go out and shoot with all the fancy gadgets.

cuezombies · May 21, 2011

Who cares if your coworkers think you're a copycat? Seriously, stop whining. Go take pictures. You've only got so long before the rapture. You're gonna feel like a fool when St. Peter asks for your portfolio at the gate and your "friend"/coworker, having made better use of his time than angsting about what someone else does with their money, takes your spot.

manaheim · May 21, 2011

My brother in law went off and started doing wedding photography with absolutely no clue what the heck he's doing. His pictures are ok. He doesn't know how to change his focus points. He doesn't know how many megapixels his camera is. He shoots at ISO2400 with the flash.

He has 13 weddings scheduled this year and has done more with photography in 12 months than I have done with it in 6 years. (granted, I have made a business for myself, but he'll probably surpass my photography income by the end of next year)

My reaction? Irritation. Why? Because I'm jealous. However, coming to grips with that has allowed me to realize it for what it is, get over it, and move on. If I had more balls, I'd be doing more than him and likely doing better. I don't, so I am not. I can live with that. I would suggest you consider doing the same.

Kbarredo · May 21, 2011

manaheim said:
My brother in law went off and started doing wedding photography with absolutely no clue what the heck he's doing. His pictures are ok. He doesn't know how to change his focus points. He doesn't know how many megapixels his camera is. He shoots at ISO2400 with the flash.

He has 13 weddings scheduled this year and has done more with photography in 12 months than I have done with it in 6 years. (granted, I have made a business for myself, but he'll probably surpass my photography income by the end of next year)

My reaction? Irritation. Why? Because I'm jealous. However, coming to grips with that has allowed me to realize it for what it is, get over it, and move on. If I had more balls, I'd be doing more than him and likely doing better. I don't, so I am not. I can live with that. I would suggest you consider doing the same.

I'm not scared to go pro. Im just taking the long way around. When become pro I want people to know the 4grand was worth it. But then again like the other guy says photography as a business and as an art are very different. I' see it as art he sees it as a business.

NCAFLeo88 · May 21, 2011

So tempted to post this thread....just sayin. Don't be a hater.

GooniesNeverSayDie11 · May 21, 2011

I say get on with your life. Why do we always feel the need to sh*t on others? Jealousy perhaps. If he wants to charge and finds it to be worth his while or enjoys doing it ( no matter how poorly skilled ) then who cares? Worry about yourself, your own skill, and building your own business. I know we can argue that people like him dilute down the quality of the profession and take away work from the extremely skilled ( a very valid point ), but thats the case with ANY business. If you aren't prepared to accept it, than you shouldn't really be running a business because you are dillusional. There is ALWAYS someone better than you at anything you do. So does that mean that a wedding photographer with 10 years experience and a photography degree shouldn't run a business because he isn't as good as the wedding photographer with 30 years experience and a Masters degree? Its all such a waste to even spend time pissing and moaning about it.