How the public - and industry - sees photographers

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  1. The_Traveler

    The_Traveler Completely Counter-dependent Supporting Member

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    First the CEO of Flickr says there are no professional photographers, then the Chicago Sun Times lays off its entire photography staff and gives reporters I-phone photography lessons. Has the world gone mad?

    No clearly, what we, as photographers, failed to realize was how the rest of the world viewed what we do.
    Honestly, most people don't give a crap.
    They, everyone else, can get decent pictures using intelligent cameras and make cheap prints virtually anywhere and the distinction between OK and terrific is invisible to most people.

    This was made even clearer to me this past weekend when I went to an 'art' fair in Frederick, MD. This was not a particularly high level fair but most of the booths showed arts and crafts a bit above the average.

    The photography on the other hand ranged from burn-out-your-eyes horrible to OK (with one quite good exception.) There was an emphasis on tricks - large over done HDRs printed on canvas, pictures with the saturation turned up to 11, pictures where the camera was intentionally joggled during exposure - every conceivable and awful photo technique you can conceive of - and a couple of new ones added in.
    These booths were getting a fair amount of traffic - and it seemed sales.

    There is no escaping the fact that photography, like the movies and books and tv, is pandering to the tastes of the tasteless. I'm sort of happy I'm not a photographer who is trying for retail sales as an income and has to compete with that other 'stuff'.

    (The was one photographer who was terrific and deserves a mention - Steven l. Miller (SLMphoto.com) showed lots of well seen and well done B&Ws. I hope he did well but this was clearly a bit of class submerged in a flood of crap.)


     
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  2. tirediron

    tirediron Watch the Birdy! Staff Member Supporting Member

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    And are you now going to recommend a bridge off of which I should jump too?
     
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    I agree totally... (the rest of my post was deleted... as it would probably offend someone!)
     
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    Tony S Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    Those that can't adapt and change with the times will disappear with the times. To be successful you need to stay ahead of the pack, find your niche and excel at it.

    Or just keep it as a hobby and have fun with it.
     
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    Chalk it up to the same reason Budwieser is the number one beer in america.

    Some prefer a fine craft brewed stout and an aged prime cut steak and some like taco bell and a 30 pack of bud light.
     
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    It seems a bit arrogant of us (and I use the second person here quite deliberately) to declare that the masses are "wrong" here.
     
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    runnah Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I can see that point of the issue but at the same time it's also most our duty to keep the "art" alive if you will. But on the flip side the "masses" do support our side of things. If nikon wasn't selling a boat load of entry level camera would they even be able to make new pro grade cameras?
     
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    Alex_B No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    There is no wrong or right.

    There are only markets and market demands.

    And markets are changing ... and always have been. The only chance is to adapt, if demand in your market segment changes ... or leave.
     
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    amolitor TPF Noob!

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    There's always tension between "zee arteests" and hoi polloi. Through this tension, and other stuff, art evolves. I think.
     
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    SAT scores are lower than they have ever been... nothing "WRONG" there! Average Scores for SAT Tests Drop | PBS NewsHour | Sept. 25, 2012 | PBS

    Drug and Alchohol abuse are going crazy... nothing "WRONG" there! Prescriptions for alcohol addiction soar by 70% in the last decade | Mail Online

    Violent crime increasing! Nothing "WRONG" there! U.S. violent crime up for first time in years - CNN.com

    Sure... let the "masses" rule... Grab a beer... watch a little reality TV.. everything will be just fine! ;)

    ( and yea.. I know... I selected just the links I needed to make my point... isn't that the standard accusation around here? lol!)
     
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    Actually your iPhone should be able to provide that information. :mrgreen:
     

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