I'm Done. Delete Account.

[Cortian]

If you was to upload a photo to Facebook and then SELL (not license) your copyright, Facebook would have no agreement with the new copyright holder and would be liable to action from the new holder if anyone looked at your Facebook page.

IANAL, but I suspect that's incorrect. I expect that kind of thing is exactly one of the things FB's TOS is designed to prevent.

You could delete the uploaded photo and then sell your copyright as once you delete the photo your licence with Facebook ends.

I bet that's not true, either. How many friends, and, possibily, friends of friends, and, possibly, friends of friends of friends, and, possibly... you get the idea... have a copy? In order for FB to comply they'd have to locate every copy on their servers and remove them. Given the size of their user base, and the size of the dataset, that would be a Herculean task.

You could, however, sell a non-exclusive RTU to somebody else.

No you can't. Not without consent of FB. The TOS says,
"You will not transfer ANY of your rights or obligations under this Statement to anyone else without our consent."

What does "any" mean?

Again: Selling a non-exclusive RTU to somebody else is not "transferring your rights." When you license somebody to use on a non-exclusive basis you retain your rights. If you grant another a non-exclusive RTU, you are not affecting any other non-exclusive RTUs you've granted.

Did you know you almost certainly don't own the software you purchase? Read the license agreement. It's almost certainly a non-exclusive RTU. E.g.: Sun Microsystems' software always came with a big card that was clearly labelled "RTU License." You had to have one on-hand for every software installation you had. You could destroy all the duplicate copies of the installation media, but you had to retain those cards. If you sold a system with the OS installed, a RTU license card had to go with it, otherwise the new owner had no right to use the software installed upon it. When software maker sells you a non-exclusive RTU, they don't lose any rights.

That's true but, in my opinion, it is of little value in the real world.

That may be your opinion, but your opinion isn't the same as law or legally binding agreements.

You originally claimed "They also own everything (photos, words, etc) that you upload to FB." They do not. They possess an unlimited RTU. You retain ownership. The difference may be moot, to you, but it is a difference. In law it's a big difference. Are you thenceforth constrained? In that you cannot sell your ownership or otherwise arbitrarily modify your agreement with FB: Yes. But you're still the owner.

And, with this, I'm done with this subject. It's getting tedious.

 

[Overread15 3]

if they can make any money off of knowing i like dogs and ferrets, I wish they would share the secret.

I didn't know you liked ferrets.

WAIT A SEC

you mean you missed the ferret thread?!!?! HOW!?

 

[KmH]

You're about 3 years late Mark!
Facebook's Zuckerberg says sorry in full-page newspaper ads

 

[compur]

You originally claimed "They also own everything (photos, words, etc) that you upload to FB." They do not. They possess an unlimited RTU. You retain ownership. The difference may be moot, to you, but it is a difference.

OK, you win the prize of a brand new $1 bill from me to you.

You are now the owner of the $1 but I will keep it safe here for you and retain the right to spend it anyway I see fit.

Isn't ownership great?

 

[nerwin]

I deleted my FB one time and waited for over a year to created another one. I hardly even use the FB account I have now, the only thing I really share is photos. I never share personal stuff. However, I am toying the idea of getting rid of FB and only keeping the messenger feature which is very handy for friends and family to get ahold of me.

I'm often asked by friends or family, "did you see my post?" - No...I rarely look at Facebook lol.

 

[Braineack]

FB deletes everyone I follow because as bastions of freespech the need to make sure only speech they agree with is heard.

And their algorithm often prevents me from seeing anything good but ads. A lot of times I only see posts days old.

They recently just banned all the admins to my favorite feed without warning.


They'd also rather terrorists use their site for bad, than allow me from seeing posts from people they disagree with: Facebook Employees in an Uproar Over Executive’s Leaked Memo

 

[KmH]

How Facebook helps shady advertisers pollute the Internet

". . . Granted anonymity, affiliates were happy to detail their tricks. They told me that Facebook had revolutionized scamming. The company built tools with its trove of user data that made it the go-to platform for big brands. Affiliates hijacked them. Facebook’s targeting algorithm is so powerful, they said, they don’t need to identify suckers themselves—Facebook does it automatically. . .
. . . Affiliates once had to guess what kind of person might fall for their unsophisticated cons, targeting ads by age, geography, or interests. Now Facebook does that work for them. . . "

Mark Zuckerberg laughs all the way to the bank.