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  1. ceemac

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    I'm thinking of purchasing a used FF camera, probably looking at the Canon 6D(not MKII). One is body and buying a Sigma 24-70 f2.8. The other is body with canon 24-105 f1.4L The sigma looks like a great lens. The Canon 24-105 f4L is described as a good kit lens, but I can't find any info on the f1.4L (It does say 1.4L on the lens). I will be doing mainly landscapes, street scenes and non portrait shots of people. Love to hear your thoughts.
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    It's not a f1.4 lens if it's 24-105. It's f4. A 24-105 f1.4 lens would be about a foot long and probably weigh 3kgs.

    I can't speak for the sigma but it's hard to go wrong with a 24-105 f4 for range and outright convenience. I don't think fullframe cameras need the f2.8 as much as they used to now that the cameras can comfortably shoot at much higher iso than older cams

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    The 1.4 is actually written 1:4 which basically is another way of writing f number
     
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    ^^ it says 1:4, not 1.4

    1:4 = f/4
     
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    FYI, Sigma makes a 24-105 f4 that is sharper than the canon 24-105.

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    Today, I would go with the wider range 24-105 as a General Purpose (GP) lens.
    I would find myself switching out the 24-70 often, to get a longer reach. Going out to 105 would be a lot more convenient for a GP lens, and reduce the need to swap out for a longer lens.
     
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    The Canon is much more than a "kit" level lens. Here's some info.

    Let us know what you decide.

    -Pete
     
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    The Canon lens is an "L" series lens. These are Canon's top-end lenses and are generally hard to beat. Most cost more than $1000 ... only a few are less. The EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM was the original but there are have been a few updates recently. That lens was often bundled as the "kit" lens with full-frame Canon cameras (don't let the term "kit" fool you... when you get to full frame you're in a high-end category and the "kit" lens is also in a high end category).

    Though I think the purchase price was around $900 to buy that lens stand-alone (it's one of the few lenses that was less than $1000) you could commonly find it for as low as $600 as a "white box" lens. This is because when Canon comes out with a new camera, initially they only sell the "kit" (camera + lens) and those who want to upgrade want the "body only" -- but would have to wait several months before Canon makes it available. So stores will open the box, remove the lens (which comes with it's own warranty card) and re-box it into a generic box so they can sell just the camera body alone. This made it an especially good deal (if you could find one) because it was technically "new".

    I never owned this lens, but many people loved it. When I went full-frame, my conundrum was between the 24-105 f/4 ... or the 24-70 f/2.8 (which was more expensive.) But since I ended up also buying the 70-200mm f/2.8, I figured I'd do the 24-70 + 70-200 and have the whole range covered at f/2.8 and skip the 24-105 f/4. HOWEVER... if you were to ONLY buy ONE lens... then I'd recommend the 24-105. It'll be a bit more versatile as a single-lens solution until you end up acquiring more glass.
     
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    Ken Rockwell on the Canon Zoom Lens EF 24-105mm f/4 L IS USM

    Even with my short exposure to DSLRs, I find myself not necessarily in agreement with everything KR says, but I have found his site and his evaluations quite useful.
     
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    Thank you all for your advice. It was f4, hard to tell from the picture. Guess I need full frame eyes. The reviews were helpful. I've read Rockwell's reviews on other lenses. I forgot about him, thanks.

    You're right Tcampbell, "kit" does make it sound mediocre. It sounded like it would cover enough range for now. Nice to know it's a good lens.

    I'll keep you posted. Thanks.
     
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    I bought a Canon 5D kit for around $3,800, back when that was a hot, new full-frame d-slr! The huge box that the kit came in had...ta dah!...the 24-105 f/4 L IS USM lens inside! That lens made for a perfect general-purpose, one-lens, walk-around rig!

    Yeah...it's got some distortion on the wide end...sure...but overall, a VERY useful focal length range. On full-frame, 24mm is quite wide! 28mm is less wide, yet still wide, but with less distorting of things at the corners and edges of the frame; 35mm is a wonderful lens length, a very useful semi-wide or pseudo-wide lens length; 45 to 55mm is very normal; 60 to 85 is short telephoto; 85-105 is moderate telephoto. The lens is not especially small, but it's quite,quite manageable, and on a 6D or 6D Mark-II, would be a good choice for a one-lens day at the sea shore, or the zoo, or on vacation, as well as adequate for studio pictures of many things.
     
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    I'd also pick the Canon 24-105 over the sigma
    www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless
     

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