I dont have Photoshop or Lightroom and never will. Luminar is not a plugin for PS. Lots of software specialises in certain processes with an interface that is infinitely more efficient than PS or LR. My world does not revolve around ADOBE and I have to be very careful with my limited budget for software. Monthly subscriptions for software is just a rip off. I would be happy to challenge anyone to find something useful that Photoshop can do that my collection of PSP 7.1 ( over 20 years old), Photomatix 5 (3 years old) and Luminar 4 cant do just as well. The only things that PS can do is one of the bits of bloatware that gets used once in a blue moon. I realise that lots of people use PS / LR and are happy with their choice. Personally I would not touch ADOBE software with a barge pole.