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Nikon 55~200 AFS

Say he gets a prime.
Then starts using f/1.4, then like most newbies things will be OOF due to the aperture selection ...

You post suggest that if he used a prime the OP "would HAVE TO" use a larger aperture.

the OP has already expressed understanding of stopping-down the lens to gain a larger DOF.

the prime was suggested because it will have greater sharpness over a kit 18-55 and kit 55-200.



This thread is a serious cluster F.
 
Then, as said, why do you need a macro lens?
It was pretty clear what he was saying...

It was suggested to the OP to use a 35mm lens.

OP stated that in order for a a 35mm to fill the frame, he would be way too close to the bag/purse and outside the minimum focusing distance of the lens, requiring a macro lens that could focus closely.
 
let me take more pictures of my set up today, so you can all make recommendations. After all, it's one setting it's not that we have a million variables. I shall detail the room and lights.
One thing I have noticed. With darker backgrounds i get better results. Of course there's a ton of post production in photoshop, but I have been using photoshop since 1996 and consider myself an expert at it. However if a picture is in good focus to start with it makes it much easier.
 

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Ok i shall investigate strobes. Any suggestions on a proven kit that works? Sorry to ask stupid questions, but since the strobes trigger with the shutter how do you position your lights before the shot? I need to visualize where the light is falling on the bag. Do you mean use strobes + the fluorescent? In other words use the fluorescent box lights as they are now and add strobes?
 
I feel like my obvious sarcasm was missed...
 
Yes it was missed. So you think it's more the optics than the light? Strobes are expensive I cannot find anything for less than $500. Would prefer to buy a lens before I get into strobes
 
The focus sharpness on that comparison page for the 55-200 afs are identical to what I am seeing on my bags. Which clearly means that these lenses do not get any sharper. Now selecting a proper lens is the issue, I cannot use a 35mm I would have to be too close.
 
To make matters worse the word "Prime" is confusing. I think it means a fixed mm as opposed to a zoom lens? However prime denotes premium or best?
I do not need a zoom lens i can move the tripod around.
 
Yes it was missed. So you think it's more the optics than the light? Strobes are expensive I cannot find anything for less than $500. Would prefer to buy a lens before I get into strobes
That was his first comment. He indicated that the lenses that you have are not the best, only the cheapest.

I know where you can buy studio strobes for $50 each, so get two or three. They're not the best, but better than CFLs.

No, you don't want to mix lighting types, so turn off your fluorescent lights. The strobes have a modeling light built in.

You should not need to do a "ton" of Photoshop if you make good photos in the first place.

My comment about lighting the fronts of your handbags had nothing to do with focusing, but rather defining the bags using good lighting technique.

Yes, you will want to diffuse the light, and watch out for specular reflections. There might be some that will need to be diminished in editing, but seriously, not much time at all.

I recently photographed about 50 wooden bowls using two strobes and a light tent. My editing took about 30 seconds for each image.

When someone tells you to always use ISO 100, did that person also say to use "small files" and set to "standard" quality? I suggest you set your camera to "large" "fine" quality so you'll have something to work with in post.

A lower quality image is probably what you see and are calling it "grain" (actually the correct term in digital is "noise").

The missed focus is probably due to a thin DOF coupled with missed focus. You have a nice modern camera and lens (albeit an entry-level lens), so why not let the camera focus?

You might want to take a few minutes and review your user's manual.

You might want to take a few hours and read up on lighting techniques.

Good luck!
 
To make matters worse the word "Prime" is confusing. I think it means a fixed mm as opposed to a zoom lens? However prime denotes premium or best?
I do not need a zoom lens i can move the tripod around.
The suggestion for obtaining a prime lens is exactly that; purchase a better lens in the focal length you need. 100mm should be fine.

If your lens does not completely fill the frame, crop later in editing. You no longer have to worry about filling the frame with the image as we tried to do back in the film days. It's quite easy to crop off the extra space in post.

We have been trying to help, but with your previous mistaken assumptions, we have had to guess our way through all this.
 
Thank you, yes you have helped me a lot.
It remains to be seen if the investment in time and money is worth an unsharp mask at 1 pixel @ 159%.
As for photoshop, I have created a list of actions, Increase black levels, white levels, unsharp mask, increase decrease exposure, etc etc... so they are all clicks.
I am buying a 35mm today just to see what it looks like, I can always return it if im not happy. The lights are a bigger mental obstacle..I'm a tad afraid.
 
shoot your 18-55 at 35mm, and that will give you an idea of what it looks like (minus the extra sharpness the 35mm gives you over the 18-55).
 

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