not a owl

[runnah]

There may be millions of them, but it is illegal to harm one. Not sure exactly what fish and game law covers it, but there is one on the books.

I doubt it. In Maine if you hit a deer with a car and it's not dead a game warden or cop has to shoot it and BY LAW offer you the meat (the deer's not the cop's).

 

[runnah]

OMG! I hate you!
I know you don't care because you're heartless... and... I don't remember the last time when I used that word, but it feels nice, liberating..
I hate you! Hate you!

So be it, but sometime it's the only thing to do.

 

[Dagwood56]

There may be millions of them, but it is illegal to harm one. Not sure exactly what fish and game law covers it, but there is one on the books.

I doubt it. In Maine if you hit a deer with a car and it's not dead a game warden or cop has to shoot it and BY LAW offer you the meat (the deer's not the cop's).

I do believe that Federal law covers all states....that being said, if you take a look at this page, near the bottom it says Legal status and Robins are federally protected. Just sayin....

 

[bribrius]

I dunno. update status. I bought this thing a cage. put it inside. it just flapped around and spilled its water dish. Bought it meal worms, daughter tried to feed it. it wont eat. wife said "let it go" :mrgreen:. Took it outside. tossed it in the air, it flu about forty feet along the ground and right back into the fence I found it next too. sitting there laying up side with its feet in the air like it had a concussion just looking at me. Picked it up again, tossed it again in the air. flu about fifty feet and ended up tumbling head over heels in the field. This thing aint flying too far.
its back in the cage.
That one leg, don't look right. its moving it but not much it hangs out to the side. it also keeps biting me. It is now short lots of feathers, some hanging off the fence it flu into . and scattered around the cage. its t-ing me off.

it is back in the cage, just sitting on its belly now looking around.

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it has some red around that leg in the feathers. I cant tell if its blood or just the feather color and wet. At this point it is soaked from splashing and spilling two water dishes.Tired of it biting me, im getting annoyed. I had to step away for a moment. lol...

 

[bribrius]

OMG! I hate you!
I know you don't care because you're heartless... and... I don't remember the last time when I used that word, but it feels nice, liberating..
I hate you! Hate you!

So be it, but sometime it's the only thing to do.

no doubt. not saying im going to . just sayn.
no answer at the semi local wildlife rehabilitation guys cell phone in Falmouth....
and im not driving this thing all the way to Falmouth anyway if he calls back he can drive here if he wants it.

it went to sleep. still breathing, just sleeping. Good place for it.

 

[runnah]

Sometimes the most humane thing is a quick end.

Call me heartless, but it's the truth.

 

[BillM]

Just call a local veterinarian's office. Or take it to one, most likely they will either take it or know someone who will.

 

[limr30 3]

Sometimes the most humane thing is a quick end.

Call me heartless, but it's the truth.

As much as I hate it, I agree that sometimes the injuries are severe enough that it's more humane to end the suffering of the animal. Having said that, I wouldn't be able to do it personally, and even knowing that it's the right thing to do, I'd cry like a fool once it was done (by someone else!)

In this case, however, I feel there's enough of a chance that it should have been brought immediately to a vet or a rehab center. Sometimes it's not clear and someone who is not familiar with birds might be killing it prematurely.

And for crying out loud, stop throwing the poor thing into the air! Bring it to someone who is qualified to make the decision, and if the bird is injured beyond hope of recovery, then it can be put to sleep less violently than with a pellet gun.

 

[bribrius]

Sometimes the most humane thing is a quick end.

Call me heartless, but it's the truth.

As much as I hate it, I agree that sometimes the injuries are severe enough that it's more humane to end the suffering of the animal. Having said that, I wouldn't be able to do it personally, and even knowing that it's the right thing to do, I'd cry like a fool once it was done (by someone else!)

In this case, however, I feel there's enough of a chance that it should have been brought immediately to a vet or a rehab center. Sometimes it's not clear and someone who is not familiar with birds might be killing it prematurely.

And for crying out loud, stop throwing the poor thing into the air! Bring it to someone who is qualified to make the decision, and if the bird is injured beyond hope of recovery, then it can be put to sleep less violently than with a pellet gun.

come get it then, I havent found anyone that wants it. I have two unreturned phone calls.
its a robin, kind of like asking people to save a squirrel.

in the meantime, its grabbing on to one of the cage side perches with one foot and propped up sleeping, the other foot it moves but still isn't putting much weight on it and not grabbing on with it. it did eat a meal worm I think, there was one in front of it and its gone now. it pretty much just wants to sleep, and bite me if I put my hand in the cage.

really though, my last dog had a broken leg and hip, vet didn't blink when I said put it down then I brought it home and buried it out back. Put it out of its misery. I doubt the vet will care about a robin. see if they call back or I talk to them tomorrow maybe. no one else has called back yet either. like asking to save a squirrel..
im just going to leave it in the cage. it lives, it lives, it dies it dies.
I cant think of much more anyone else would do either...

I have a shotgun, if you prefer, it wouldn't feel a thing. My wife and kids would go ape if I did that though.

 

[limr30 3]

I can think of a lot of things someone else would have done for "just a robin." Not everyone thinks an animal is insignificant just because it's small and there are lots of them. If you don't give a crap - and it seems like you don't - then why try to do anything? If you are doing this for your wife or because of even a small desire to help the animal, then don't do it half-assed.

 

[shefjr]

Sometimes the most humane thing is a quick end. Call me heartless, but it's the truth.

I agree with this. I would have taken a spade to its head. I would feel reverence for the bird but, would have been swift about its demise. Btw, I don't consider it being heartless.

 

[shefjr]

I would get up early put a spade straight through the neck. Use the spade to bury the bird. Then tell the kids that you let the bird out of the cage and it flew off in great condition. They did a great job mending the bird and now it's healthy.

 

[bribrius]

I can think of a lot of things someone else would have done for "just a robin." Not everyone thinks an animal is insignificant just because it's small and there are lots of them. If you don't give a crap - and it seems like you don't - then why try to do anything? If you are doing this for your wife or because of even a small desire to help the animal, then don't do it half-assed.

you mean more than getting it food and a cage? such as....................


totally for my wife who didn't want me to kill it.. she wanted it free, in which it would suffer and suffer more but I followed along, it didn't work. it cant fly right or land without ending up on its head. women don't like things to be killed or to know they are suffering they just want to imagine they are free and happy I guess. I wanted to put it out of its misery and do it a favor. it ended up in a cage because it isn't well enough to fly away and I don't want to spend the next week sleeping on the couch being told im heartless..

This is why I took care of that dog without her. she would have spent three k in vet bills to end up with a arthritic dog that couldn't walk right that was suffering but in her mind she would have thought we did "a good thing", no matter how much pain the dog ended up in or lived with. which is exactly why I cut her out of that decision and put it down and buried it out back. She would have had that poor thing suffering. The robin, if I really cared I prolly would have just put it out of its misery and dealt with the couch for a week...


well, I suppose for the kids too. She didn't like the idea of the impression the kids would have if it put it out of its misery. woman thinking. I guess having them wake up in a couple days and finding it dead in the cage is better. im just a male. I cant reason that way but ill play along long, as it isn't my dog she is having this big heart with making it suffer. :mrgreen:

but really, its in the cage at the moment, sleeping , and yes breathing, content like. I think it needs some recuperation. who knows how long it was on the ground trying to get up and fly before it was noticed. probably pretty worn out.

 

[limr30 3]

What more? Bring it to someone who knows how to take care of the bird properly so that person can make the informed decision about a) whether or not the bird even has a chance, b) how to nurse it back to health if it does have a chance, and c) when to reasonably expect it to just fly away on its own. How much effort does it take to make a few calls, find a rehab center and drive the bird over? Hell, there was even a link posted in coastalconn's thread just a few days ago where you could find a local rehab center. I just don't see the point of trying to save the bird - for whatever reason - and then throwing it into the air, possibly injuring it further, and then just leaving it alone in a cage. Either kill it quickly or or try to keep it alive, and if you're not qualified to take care of it properly yourself, bring the bird to someone who can.

In fact...here, found it for you: List of Wildlife Rehabilitators

That took me all of 2 minutes. It's even bookmarked for the listings in Maine.

 

[limr30 3]

And enough of your "women thinking" crap. If you're wife thinks that way, then it's your wife's thinking. Don't assume all women are going to think that way.