Overexposed?

[Bynx]

You dont really need others to tell you what is wrong with a shot unless its a choice of A or B. They are overexposed. Looking at them side by side I see they might be a bit over saturated. But the shot isnt bad. I like the composition and it relates to me what its about.

 

[subscuck]

I am open to CONSTRUCTIVE criticism because I want to improve my craft... not argue with trolls.

And thread after thread that you start is filled with constructive criticism that you resist. You constantly defend your position even and especially when you won't find another single photographer, pro or serious amateur, who will agree with you. Overexposed isn't a "style", it's a lack of skills and fundamental knowledge about exposure and the tools your camera provides you. To justify it by saying it works, when a million other people tell you "no, it pretty much doesn't", is seen as you being quite closed to constructive criticism by those that are trying to help and guide you along. So relax, go to a good place mentally, take a good look within, and try to see why people who have offered up years of professional wisdom are turning snarky.

 

[cuezombies]

To justify it by saying it works, when a million other people tell you "no, it pretty much doesn't", is seen as you being quite closed to constructive criticism by those that are trying to help and guide you along. So relax, go to a good place mentally, take a good look within, and try to see why people who have offered up years of professional wisdom are turning snarky.

Yes!

You know, I've been lurking around this forum off and on for years now. There are so many great minds here, however unbearable the snark can be at times (that last is why I resisted creating an account for myself until recently). It's threads like this one that push sarcasm to the front of people's shelves. Really? The guy who's been registered here since September of 2005 is a bridge troll and you are a serious photographer- exposure questions in the beginners' forum aside- and you can't understand why snark is the first thing some members reach for? You post here asking questions and then make a lot of lame excuses about prop photos, even though your watermark suggests you'd like to be a photographer, not just another tea party ninja. The most helpful suggestion I can muster is that you take the photog watermark off of your "this photo shows a teapot, it's good enough to represent my business" snapshot and stop posting its ilk on photography forums if you're not looking to improve them.

I like where (I think) you were going with this series; I genuinely hope you'll tone down the defensiveness, take a few suggestions, reshoot and share. And keep asking questions. It's okay to suck for a while as long as you're learning (or maybe it's not- I have to tell myself that as I wait for the small part of my brain that can handle the gears and cogs bit of photography to catch up to what I see in my mind's eye, otherwise I'd never take another shot). It's when you cram your fingers into your ears and start blowing raspberries that things start to fall apart. Not every nugget of advice you'll get from the internet is going to be helpful to your art (or accurate, or polite). Some of it's going to hurt your feelings. But if you set out to be respectful and to keep learning no matter what, the snark you'll run into in the beginning will begin to fall away as you not only improve on your technical skill but begin to establish a reputation for being (stubbornly) open-minded, polite and appreciative of feedback- even if you don't love every post that someone aims at you.

There, end n00b rant. I am ready to be mocked, TPFers, fire away!

 

[e.rose]

Other qualfying questions that fit this model...

Does this picture look like ****? Yes.
Is this too slanted? Yes.
Does this picture make me look like I have a big nose? Yes.

Does this dress make me look fat? Ohhhhhhhhh! Trick question, here. The real answer is not "Yes", but actually... "No, you ARE fat. The dress is just telling the truth."


Wheelah.

 

[manaheim]

I had to go back and look to seeif I was the one here sine sep 2005.

Yup.

Wow ive been here a long time.

Guess I'm a bridge troll. *shrug*. I like goats. *smacks lips*

 

[cuezombies]

Goats are disgusting. You've been a troll a long time... why haven't you made the step up to homeless people at least?

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

I dunno, I had some braised baby goat at a restaurant, that was rather delicious.

 

[manaheim]

Goats are disgusting. You've been a troll a long time... why haven't you made the step up to homeless people at least?

All kidding aside... I'm not looking for fights here on TPF (trolling), but I do often put up a fight when one was clearly asked for... or deserved.

You said you've been monitoring this site for a while, so I would think you may see a trend.

There are a number of folks who have been on here for a while and they tend to be slightly snarkier at times than many of the newer folks. Why do you think that is?

I'm here on TPF for three reasons... community, a chance to learn, and a chance to teach. All three of these things are diminished by people who come on and act like the OP has in this (and apparently other) threads. My unstated goal on TPF is very simple... to share, be one with the group, to teach when asked and constructively received, and to bluntly discourage when asked and unconstructively received.

Too long now has the internet been filled with people who "atta' boy" with no clue about what they are talking about... people who post saying they are looking for help, but are just looking for "atta' boys". I'm tired of it, and so are a lot of the more senior members here.

Am I gruff? Grouchy? Overly blunt? Yeah, no question. But you know what, I know a hell of a lot, and I am so very willing to share it. This describes a lot of the "older" folks around here on TPF as well, and their numbers are dwindling... hell, most of the REAL heavy hitters who taught me a GOOD bit of most of what I know have already thrown their hands up in the air, gotten pissed off and left. You don't want that to continue... not that you could really stop it, but...

Now you may say "Who gave you the right to define what TPF should be?" TPF did. TPF never clearly sets a direction for itself. It says 'the members decide'. Truth be told, TPF doesn't probably much care as long as there is still tons of traffic and contributing members... and if I had to guess, they probably love a good occasional snark fest because those are the threads that are watched the most. I don't know, but it's a pretty reasonable guess.

Whatever the case... so far... the mods have not told me to stop. I gotta be honest. I'm as surprised as anyone, but if they did and they didn't want someone being a bit more blunt with folks on here then I would honestly think I am truly TRULY done with this place and move on... because I can't honestly imagine ignoring it when stuff like this goes on.

Anyway, back to my goats.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

My snark stems from "has business/can't make own decisions".

 

[subscuck]

Very well put, Manaheim. I'm glad you've got the patience to stick around, this place benefits from it. Goat curry rules, btw.

 

[cuezombies]

There are a number of folks who have been on here for a while and they tend to be slightly snarkier at times than many of the newer folks. Why do you think that is?

I'm here on TPF for three reasons... community, a chance to learn, and a chance to teach. All three of these things are diminished by people who come on and act like the OP has in this (and apparently other) threads.

Just to clarify, I don't think you're a troll- in fact I found that post to be absolutely ridiculous. (I'm fairly sure you realize that, but just in case!) I'm with you completely re: the reason our old goats can be a little bristly. Threads like this one chafe me because IMO they waste a lot of resources that people like me- who aren't new to photography but are definitely new to GOOD photography- would love to have on OPs who are ultimately more focused on hand-wringing, wangst, and being right than they are on improving/putting out a good product. At least they're (usually) entertaining, and I can read along and pick out the useful bits when I find them!

I'm thinking of posting a desperate plea for PP help later this week and expect to see plenty of responses suggesting I beat myself into soup with my own tripod and never take another crap photo. :greenpbl: I'd think some of you were sick if I didn't. But I know there'll be some legitimate help, too- and that's worth the snark for me, painful as it can be for the old ego.

 

[Raian-san]

Does this dress make me look fat? Ohhhhhhhhh! Trick question, here. The real answer is not "Yes", but actually... "No, you ARE fat. The dress is just telling the truth."


Wheelah.

:thumbup:

 

[The_Traveler]

IMO, the real killer in this shot is the overexposure of the table.
If there was some texture in the table top then some PPing could make the background look better but the burnt out areas on the table really hurt.
a larger, darker ornate text style over the background and/or the table top would also pull the eye and kill some of the OE curse.

3 layers - background, flags, table and cups

darkened, saturated and lens blur background
didn't do much to flags
increased saturation on table and cups, area sharpen to make them pop. burnt in some places.

with full res image and more interest I would have masked out the very light parts of background and slid more foliage in before lens blurring it all.



Reading histograms save PPing and hair loss.

 

[chaosrealm93]

yea

 

[Derrel]

Bitter Jeweler, Hey, do you still have the phone number for that whaaaaammbulance service? I think two or three posters in this thread might want to program it into their cell phones.