Pro crop d500

[JacaRanda]

I'll have to give it a try. just pre-ordered one

Well la-de-dah Mr fancy pants

I just ordered a power steering pump off ebay.

Does that help with focus

Helps with stalking to get closer to the bird.

 

[JacaRanda]

Can only imagine what this thread does to newbies. Don't we all want these companies to keep pushing the envelope (maybe faster)?
I'm waiting for the Burger King solution of 'Have it your way'. Order the exact specs the way we want from any maker we choose. How cool would that be?

 

[cgw]

D5/D500:Higher prices+fatter margins/profits on lower unit sales volume=happy shareholders.

Odd, yet again you demonstrate your Thom Hogan-like fixation with Nikon financials, Nikon company strategy, Nikon business strategies. Ever since you showed up here in 2013, on numerous occasions I have genuinely wondered if you are Hogan himself, in sock puppet disguise. Constantly linking to his articles dealing with Nikon business decisions, Nikon revenues, Nikon sales reports, CIPA sales numbers, etc. Your random posts that introduce links to Hogan's articles dealing with Nikon management decision, share prices, corporate strategy, product matrix,etc.....it all just seems...soooo weird to me.

I just keep thinking: "Sock puppet? Or payed shill for some other company?"

I just cannot figure out why you constantly pop up on TPF with this anti-Nikon agenda, over and over. Do you even own a camera? What do you shoot? Do you actually take photos?

Yet another guy who disturbingly looks and thinks a little deeper than you're accustomed to:

The Visual Science Lab.: Which Nikon am I interested in right now? Here's a clue, I'm not putting in any pre-orders....

 

[Braineack]

Yawn.

using tapatalk.

 

[pixmedic]

D5/D500:Higher prices+fatter margins/profits on lower unit sales volume=happy shareholders.

Odd, yet again you demonstrate your Thom Hogan-like fixation with Nikon financials, Nikon company strategy, Nikon business strategies. Ever since you showed up here in 2013, on numerous occasions I have genuinely wondered if you are Hogan himself, in sock puppet disguise. Constantly linking to his articles dealing with Nikon business decisions, Nikon revenues, Nikon sales reports, CIPA sales numbers, etc. Your random posts that introduce links to Hogan's articles dealing with Nikon management decision, share prices, corporate strategy, product matrix,etc.....it all just seems...soooo weird to me.

I just keep thinking: "Sock puppet? Or payed shill for some other company?"

I just cannot figure out why you constantly pop up on TPF with this anti-Nikon agenda, over and over. Do you even own a camera? What do you shoot? Do you actually take photos?

Yet another guy who disturbingly looks and thinks a little deeper than you're accustomed to:

The Visual Science Lab.: Which Nikon am I interested in right now? Here's a clue, I'm not putting in any pre-orders....

well, lets take a look at that $2000 price tag nikon put on the D500 and see if there is any precedent for it, or if its just nikon pulling random inflated numbers out of their bum.
hmm...from what I can remember...
$2000 has pretty much been nikons starting point for most of their higher end prosumer DX bodies.
back in 2002 my D100 debuted at $2000.
as did the D200 when it was released in 2005.
and the D300 in 2007? you guessed it. $2000.

fast forward just a bit and you can see the trend continuing in nikons entry level FX line.
when the D600 came out in 2012 it was how much? yup. $2000.
The D750 was a little more, hitting the $2400 mark, but still....pretty close.

so really, i dont know where this surprise and/or disdain comes from for the $2000 price tag on Nikons brand new sports model high end DX camera...except for the disdain you seem to have for Nikon in general.
$2k-ish is pretty much the same price point nikon has been using for well over a decade now for their new high end DX line, and now their entry level FX line.

if you want a lower end, cheaper DX model, you can drop down to a D7200.
the D500 is, and was meant to be, a sports model. its quite a few steps above the D7200 and is thusly priced so.

people also seem to forget that the time between the initial roll out price for the people that absolutely HAVE to have the latest and greatest gadgets, and the inevitable discounted price for the people that were willing and able to wait a little while isn't usually very long.

i would wager to say that within 6-9 months that same D500 will be around $1599 brand new in box at the same stores that debut it at $2000.

 

[coastalconn]

D5/D500:Higher prices+fatter margins/profits on lower unit sales volume=happy shareholders.

Odd, yet again you demonstrate your Thom Hogan-like fixation with Nikon financials, Nikon company strategy, Nikon business strategies. Ever since you showed up here in 2013, on numerous occasions I have genuinely wondered if you are Hogan himself, in sock puppet disguise. Constantly linking to his articles dealing with Nikon business decisions, Nikon revenues, Nikon sales reports, CIPA sales numbers, etc. Your random posts that introduce links to Hogan's articles dealing with Nikon management decision, share prices, corporate strategy, product matrix,etc.....it all just seems...soooo weird to me.

I just keep thinking: "Sock puppet? Or payed shill for some other company?"

I just cannot figure out why you constantly pop up on TPF with this anti-Nikon agenda, over and over. Do you even own a camera? What do you shoot? Do you actually take photos?

Yet another guy who disturbingly looks and thinks a little deeper than you're accustomed to:

The Visual Science Lab.: Which Nikon am I interested in right now? Here's a clue, I'm not putting in any pre-orders....

Honestly who cares about this Kirk Tuck guy thinks about the D500? I looked at his portfolio on 500px and he shoots portraits and does food/product photography. The D500 is not targeted at him at all. Maybe I should write a blog about landscape cameras and tell you what I think is best. It would be about the same since I am not a landscape guy... Personally I am still drooling over the D500 but I'm too deep into Canon land at this point. If you find a link to a pro wildlife photographer that denounces the D500 then I will see some merit based on their opinion. If you think this camera is too expensive for you or doesn't fit your needs, feel free to move along.

 

[Dave442]

400 mb/sec vs 90.

Since the D5 and the D500 each have an XQD card slot, it creates a bridge between the two models. A very high-speed card seems like it would make a lot of sense for the minuscule slice of the camera market that buys either one of these delayed, rushed-to-market, forced-development, barely-differentiated-from-their-predecessor, under-performing, over-priced, niche-market pieces of crap cameras.

you can also get it will dual CF card slots instead if you dont wanna buy fancy new memory cards.

Dual XQD or Dual CF in the D5 and only the option of one XQD and one CF in the D500. And in the D5 you can send in the body and have the memory card box switched out for the other (so a business starts with Dual CF as that is what they have then switch to Dual XQD). I do not have any SD cards, and my CF are only 16gb so I would prefer to just jump straight to XQD. So, I guess my only complaint on the D500 so far is that they do not offer the Dual XQD option.

Like pixmedic, I also do not see any issue on the price of the D500.

 

[ByronBrant]

I also think the D500 is priced right. Actually I think it's a relative bargain. I would have expected 2400.00

 

[Derrel]

Yet another guy who disturbingly looks and thinks a little deeper than you're accustomed to:

The Visual Science Lab.: Which Nikon am I interested in right now? Here's a clue, I'm not putting in any pre-orders....

Nice try, camera guru writer, but I read Kirk Tuck's blog pretty often. You referred us to a post of his the day he found out the D5 and D500 had been announced....he was, as he wrote, filling out his small business tax paper work, and had just sent off a big bunch of cash, and was feeling financially burdened and cash-poor, and so within a few minutes he convinced himself he could not afford either camera. Being a single-proprietorship businessman in his sixties, in a diminished market, and with a son far away at an expensive private college, he's been feeling financially strapped for quite some time now. As he says, there's not much money in being a photographer these days. I read his blog regularly. Have for years.

He's the guy who tried to tell EVERYBODY who would listen that the 16-megapixel m4/3 cameras were allllllllll a professional photographer would ever need, that high-MP cameras were dead, dead, dead, and that the little mirrorless cams were all that was needed. He went on that mirrorless-is-the-new-holy-grail tack for well over a year...buying system after system of small cameras, and lens after lens after lens....he also bought a FF Sony system, Panasonic, Oly, etc.etc.. and then sold them off one after another out of a huge equipment locker he mentioned many, many times on his earlier blog....he sort of humble-bragged about how much mirrorless junk he had bought, and tried, and found lacking. And theeennnnnn, well, then he found out what a 36-MP Nikon could do. HE'S ALSO added a D750 to the mix. He shoots a lot of portraits: unlike you oh camera guru writer, I realize that Kirk Tuck has very little need for a high-speed DX camera, nor any need for an expensive pro flagship camera designed for sports and action work: he ALREADY has plenty of current-model cameras, and he's currently shooting mostly with two basic lenses on Nikon. Studio portraits and corporate mugshots done on-location are NOT the reason for being for cameras like the D5 or a D500. You, trying to make some kind of point about "deep thinking" and bringing your favorite portrait blogger into a discussion of high-speed "action" cameras? Pfffft. LMFAO, pally.

He's the guy that then PULLED DOWN his entire blog....probably because his "the-dslr is dead, mirroless is all one needs for pro work" line was getting no traction, and he himself ditched the tiny cameras for commercial still work (the Panny cams are still very nice for his video work though), and shifted BACK to full-frame, high-MP, 36-MP Nikons for his d-slr cameras for his commercial jobs. he recently picked up the classic Nikkor 105/2.5 for much of his new still portraiture work...going back to a classic 35 year-old lens design...

So, no....I don't think he really does think very deeply...he made a fool out of himself jumping on the mirrorless bandwagon, band-waggoned the $hi+ out of the m4/3 format for pro work every week for months and months and months...then egged up his face and went to the Nikon 36-MP cams.... and as stated, he pulled down multiple years' worth of his blog site after having made the switch, conveniently eliminating the evidence of his little love affair with toy cams for pro work.

Yeah...he's quite the deep thinker and YOU are the only guy in the world that has ever read his blog. Right, Andrew ? Snort!

 

[Solarflare]

Can only imagine what this thread does to newbies.

Well ... no idea ? What does it do ? What should it do ?

Even if I had unlimited funds, I would have zero use for either camera.

he recently picked up the classic Nikkor 105/2.5 for much of his new still portraiture work...going back to a classic 35 year-old lens design...

Nothing wrong about that piece of glas, and its ultra cheap too.

 

[cgw]

Yet another guy who disturbingly looks and thinks a little deeper than you're accustomed to:

The Visual Science Lab.: Which Nikon am I interested in right now? Here's a clue, I'm not putting in any pre-orders....

Nice try, camera guru writer, but I read Kirk Tuck's blog pretty often. You referred us to a post of his the day he found out the D5 and D500 had been announced....he was, as he wrote, filling out his small business tax paper work, and had just sent off a big bunch of cash, and was feeling financially burdened and cash-poor, and so within a few minutes he convinced himself he could not afford either camera. Being a single-proprietorship businessman in his sixties, in a diminished market, and with a son far away at an expensive private college, he's been feeling financially strapped for quite some time now. As he says, there's not much money in being a photographer these days. I read his blog regularly. Have for years.

He's the guy who tried to tell EVERYBODY who would listen that the 16-megapixel m4/3 cameras were allllllllll a professional photographer would ever need, that high-MP cameras were dead, dead, dead, and that the little mirrorless cams were all that was needed. He went on that mirrorless-is-the-new-holy-grail tack for well over a year...buying system after system of small cameras, and lens after lens after lens....he also bought a FF Sony system, Panasonic, Oly, etc.etc.. and then sold them off one after another out of a huge equipment locker he mentioned many, many times on his earlier blog....he sort of humble-bragged about how much mirrorless junk he had bought, and tried, and found lacking. And theeennnnnn, well, then he found out what a 36-MP Nikon could do. HE'S ALSO added a D750 to the mix. He shoots a lot of portraits: unlike you oh camera guru writer, I realize that Kirk Tuck has very little need for a high-speed DX camera, nor any need for an expensive pro flagship camera designed for sports and action work: he ALREADY has plenty of current-model cameras, and he's currently shooting mostly with two basic lenses on Nikon. Studio portraits and corporate mugshots done on-location are NOT the reason for being for cameras like the D5 or a D500. You, trying to make some kind of point about "deep thinking" and bringing your favorite portrait blogger into a discussion of high-speed "action" cameras? Pfffft. LMFAO, pally.

He's the guy that then PULLED DOWN his entire blog....probably because his "the-dslr is dead, mirroless is all one needs for pro work" line was getting no traction, and he himself ditched the tiny cameras for commercial still work (the Panny cams are still very nice for his video work though), and shifted BACK to full-frame, high-MP, 36-MP Nikons for his d-slr cameras for his commercial jobs. he recently picked up the classic Nikkor 105/2.5 for much of his new still portraiture work...going back to a classic 35 year-old lens design...

So, no....I don't think he really does think very deeply...he made a fool out of himself jumping on the mirrorless bandwagon, band-waggoned the $hi+ out of the m4/3 format for pro work every week for months and months and months...then egged up his face and went to the Nikon 36-MP cams.... and as stated, he pulled down multiple years' worth of his blog site after having made the switch, conveniently eliminating the evidence of his little love affair with toy cams for pro work.

Yeah...he's quite the deep thinker and YOU are the only guy in the world that has ever read his blog. Right, Andrew ? Snort!

Despite the usual gale-force ad hominem outgassing, you somehow neglected to speak to Tuck's points in the last of his posts I linked.

 

[gckless]

I don't understand why people are stuck on the $2k price. For what it is, pretty sure that price point is where it should be. I think I bought my D7000 for damn near that much when it came out 4 years ago, and this is hell of a lot more camera than that in relation.

But, what I don't understand, and this was mentioned earlier, is how they get $3k for the package with the kit lens, when the lens is no more than $650 if bought separately.

 

[astroNikon]

400 mb/sec vs 90.

Since the D5 and the D500 each have an XQD card slot, it creates a bridge between the two models. A very high-speed card seems like it would make a lot of sense for the minuscule slice of the camera market that buys either one of these delayed, rushed-to-market, forced-development, barely-differentiated-from-their-predecessor, under-performing, over-priced, niche-market pieces of crap cameras.

Actually on B&H
they have TWO D5 models

one with dual XQD sltos ==> Nikon D5 DSLR Camera (D5 Body Only, Dual XQD) 1557 B&H Photo

and ont with dual CF slots ==> Nikon D5 DSLR Camera (D5 Body Only, Dual CompactFlash) 1558 B&H

So it looks like you have the option of one or the other
Even though Adorama.com only has ONE D5 with both slots

and apparently the LCD is a touchscreen

From NIKONUSA website

*A new modular design for memory lets you select a model with either dual XQD slots or dual high-speed CF slots.

Nikon D5 DSLR | Flagship Interchangeable Lens DSLR Camera From Nikon

 

[astroNikon]

Can only imagine what this thread does to newbies. Don't we all want these companies to keep pushing the envelope (maybe faster)?
I'm waiting for the Burger King solution of 'Have it your way'. Order the exact specs the way we want from any maker we choose. How cool would that be?

Actually one of Nikon's patents (from last year?) is for switchable sensors. So theoretically you could order a d750 with a 20MB or 24 or 33 or 50MB sensor someday

So never say never.

 

[coastalconn]

Yet another guy who disturbingly looks and thinks a little deeper than you're accustomed to:

The Visual Science Lab.: Which Nikon am I interested in right now? Here's a clue, I'm not putting in any pre-orders....

Nice try, camera guru writer, but I read Kirk Tuck's blog pretty often. You referred us to a post of his the day he found out the D5 and D500 had been announced....he was, as he wrote, filling out his small business tax paper work, and had just sent off a big bunch of cash, and was feeling financially burdened and cash-poor, and so within a few minutes he convinced himself he could not afford either camera. Being a single-proprietorship businessman in his sixties, in a diminished market, and with a son far away at an expensive private college, he's been feeling financially strapped for quite some time now. As he says, there's not much money in being a photographer these days. I read his blog regularly. Have for years.

He's the guy who tried to tell EVERYBODY who would listen that the 16-megapixel m4/3 cameras were allllllllll a professional photographer would ever need, that high-MP cameras were dead, dead, dead, and that the little mirrorless cams were all that was needed. He went on that mirrorless-is-the-new-holy-grail tack for well over a year...buying system after system of small cameras, and lens after lens after lens....he also bought a FF Sony system, Panasonic, Oly, etc.etc.. and then sold them off one after another out of a huge equipment locker he mentioned many, many times on his earlier blog....he sort of humble-bragged about how much mirrorless junk he had bought, and tried, and found lacking. And theeennnnnn, well, then he found out what a 36-MP Nikon could do. HE'S ALSO added a D750 to the mix. He shoots a lot of portraits: unlike you oh camera guru writer, I realize that Kirk Tuck has very little need for a high-speed DX camera, nor any need for an expensive pro flagship camera designed for sports and action work: he ALREADY has plenty of current-model cameras, and he's currently shooting mostly with two basic lenses on Nikon. Studio portraits and corporate mugshots done on-location are NOT the reason for being for cameras like the D5 or a D500. You, trying to make some kind of point about "deep thinking" and bringing your favorite portrait blogger into a discussion of high-speed "action" cameras? Pfffft. LMFAO, pally.

He's the guy that then PULLED DOWN his entire blog....probably because his "the-dslr is dead, mirroless is all one needs for pro work" line was getting no traction, and he himself ditched the tiny cameras for commercial still work (the Panny cams are still very nice for his video work though), and shifted BACK to full-frame, high-MP, 36-MP Nikons for his d-slr cameras for his commercial jobs. he recently picked up the classic Nikkor 105/2.5 for much of his new still portraiture work...going back to a classic 35 year-old lens design...

So, no....I don't think he really does think very deeply...he made a fool out of himself jumping on the mirrorless bandwagon, band-waggoned the $hi+ out of the m4/3 format for pro work every week for months and months and months...then egged up his face and went to the Nikon 36-MP cams.... and as stated, he pulled down multiple years' worth of his blog site after having made the switch, conveniently eliminating the evidence of his little love affair with toy cams for pro work.

Yeah...he's quite the deep thinker and YOU are the only guy in the world that has ever read his blog. Right, Andrew ? Snort!

Despite the usual gale-force ad hominem outgassing, you somehow neglected to speak to Tuck's points in the last of his posts I linked.

I did. Maybe you should read my response..

But, what I don't understand, and this was mentioned earlier, is how they get $3k for the package with the kit lens, when the lens is no more than $650 if bought separately.

I don't think you can find that lens for 650 now. That was probably December rebate pricing? By the time the d500 ships the lens will be full price of 1070 without any rebates... I have not shot with that lens, but seems a bit overpriced... The 200-500 should be the kit lens anyways...