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Well Then, Shall We Just Let the Blind Lead the Blind?

Newbies have to register.
Why can't the system send them an email with links to basic questions and an admonishment to read before they post?
It would be about useles to do so, because the same people that don't click on the "How to post a photo" sticky, won't click on those links either.
 
The mods know that the sticky is wrong, why can't the Mod for the Beginners' Forum just take the initiative and change it?

My guess is that it would take less time to fix the damn sticky than it took to write out the corrections.

What exactly is wrong with the sticky = I'm assuming its something to do with the subscriber section of the photo uploading (an area I've not used).
 
Newbies have to register.
Why can't the system send them an email with links to basic questions and an admonishment to read before they post?
It would be about useles to do so, because the same people that don't click on the "How to post a photo" sticky, won't click on those links either.
It might be useless initially, but it would help give credence to some of the posters who would like to link to the answer instead of having to retype it over and over again.

A simple, "Hey, thanks for posting. That questions gets asked a lot around here so the forum admin included the link in your welcome e-mail. Here is the link again. Let us know if you have any other questions."

Sure would make things a lot less contentious around here.
 
Newbies have to register.
Why can't the system send them an email with links to basic questions and an admonishment to read before they post?
It would be about useles to do so, because the same people that don't click on the "How to post a photo" sticky, won't click on those links either.

Yes, but then we can refer to the introductory email as our source for all basic links.
We don't have to fish out the link and post it.

A copy of the registration email could be posted as a sticky and then I could have a standard text paste that says something like:

"This information was in the email you received when registering. If you don't have that, here a link to a copy of that email. If you don't understand the information or if you have further questions, just query again and I'd be happy to help."
 
Overread said:
Again I'm still confused why people asking basic questions angers and infuriates so many of you->SNIP

I honestly think you are far,far,far too young to understand the answer; the answer to your question has already been provided above by Bitter Jeweler, and by Orion'sByte. Simply put Overread, your world view is that of somebody who was born DURING the internet age, and the world view of most of the "older" members is that of men and women who came of age well before the internet even existed. You see, we older folks grew up and came of age in an era when WORK and STUDY and EFFORT was required to gain information;you have come of age in the era where information is expected to be FREE. A goodly number of the younger people on this forum become upset or angry when they are not walked through their very basic questions as if they were a king or a queen. When people post a "RTFM-type" question, like, "How do I format my camera's memory card?", it shows they have not even read the camera's Quick-Start guide, but are instead, running here for hand-holding answer provision.

The fact that you say you are, "confused why people asking basic questions angers and infuriates so many of you," to use your own words, might possibly be because of your lack of understanding of the situation from the point of view of a 40- to 60- year-old person. You are missing the point, by a wide margin; it's not the ASKING of the question per se, but the RESPONSES where indignant huffiness, ad hominem attacks, and insults are hurtled back by a newbie who expected others to do his or her own WORK, and was unwilling to lift a Goddamned finger to better his or her understanding, and whose facile or over-broad question was met with an admonition to better-define the question, or to search the forum even a tiny bit, or to actually RTFM. Hey, I'm approaching 10,000 posts here; I HAVE ANSWERED THOUSANDS of questions, many of them the same ones,over and over. I have little problem with simple, honest questions, but when I see people come on here and then attack responders, and piss and moan about how "rude" people are when they give honest C&C, that's what's irritating. Not the questions, but the juvenile attitudes and responses that so,so many people given when they do not get the INSTANT help they think they are entitled to,in the form they wish, and at the level of breadth and depth the feel they are "entitled to".

Again...this is an example of how an entire generation of people, with access to a WORLD of information at their keyboard, seem to be totally fricking clueless about how to use Google or Ask Jeves or Bing or whatever, to provide them with the information they want. You own statement that Google requires you to know certain words before it spits out its search results is a good example of the excuse-making so typical of people in their 20's. Well boo-hoo-hoo, cry me a river; try walking 7/8 of a mile down to the local library in a rainy climate to get a photography magazine. I have absolutely ZERO sympathy for anybody who cries that Google makes him know words, and then spews forth summaries of eight hundred applicable articles located on-line, and instantly-printable. Instantly-printable information. Not a big deal to right?

Here is a little fact about my photo background: when I was in fifth and sixth grades, I hand-transcribed The Amateur Photographer's Handbook, in longhand, on notebook paper, using a bladder-fill fountain pen, and Schaefer's Skrip ink. I still have the notebook in my safe. It's not a skimpy little volume either.Amazon.com: The Amateur Photographer's Handbook (9780690057829): Aaron Sussman: Books
 
Derrel, you REALLY want to blame the whole generation for this?
I don't quite understand, why does someone has to be at a certain age or to be born in a certain era, to understand what are you saying. If you look up my post in this thread, you'll see I've written basically the same. How old does that make me?

You say, that when you were younger, you had to get everything by yourself. What makes you think today is any different?
 
Derrel, you REALLY want to blame the whole generation for this?

There are always exceptions.
You are one.

It's directed at the people who repeatedly argue for, and defend, spoon fed, shallow, knowledge.
It's directed at the people who want the quick fix, rather than the deeper understanding.
 
I haven't read this whole post, mainly for the same reason that I haven't done a basic search for questions that I've had since I've been here.....plain and simple, I'm lazy, and I jump on and off due to work, and it's easier for me to ask a question and then check back in for a response rather than weeding through posts to find the information. So I'll apologize for being lazy.

No one has been outright rude to me in the 2 weeks I've been here, or if they have I haven't taken it that way. I've posted a few pics for C&C because I really don't know if they are good. Family and friends tell me they like them, but what are they going to say "you suck"? So I appreciate the tips I've gotten, and I'm definitely learning things here. So thanks to anyone who has answered one of my stupid questions or C&C'd a crappy photo. It's helping me. I guess I am in the Leech phase of the process
 
Always the same people stiring ****. If you feel that a questions has been asked 10001101 times and you dont feel like saying your bull**** over again, move along, dont post ****. you ****in people need to get a life. GET A LIFE, if nobody respond to them, they will search for answers.

Its funny that every thread on this forum that turns into a mess you always seems to see the same people arguing about the same bull****. this place is going to the ****ter because some assholes think they run this place. In fact, they do.
 
I understand that Bitter, however, to me Derrel's post sounded more like: we older generation had it harder, so you youngsters can't understand... That is what bothered me about it.
Maybe I just misunderstood his post, can't tell. English ain't exactly my primary language, so I struggle time to time.

Schwettylens :Dhttp://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/members/63137.html
 
Wow Derrel, Sixty- something?..... Maybe It Is the blind leading the blind.....( It's a joke....Take a breath )


It comes down to RESPECT ! The (Pros) don't respect the Uninformed,noobs......And in turn, the noobs don't give "DO" respect in return
What to do about it......Don't respond, you choose to get pissed -off, Pick out the ones you can help and ignore the rest....WTF?
 
Always the same people stiring ****. If you feel that a questions has been asked 10001101 times and you dont feel like saying your bull**** over again, move along, dont post ****. you ****in people need to get a life. GET A LIFE, if nobody respond to them, they will search for answers.

Its funny that every thread on this forum that turns into a mess you always seems to see the same people arguing about the same bull****. this place is going to the ****ter because some assholes think they run this place. In fact, they do.

Tell us how you really feel ;)
 
Wow Derrel, Sixty- something?..... Maybe It Is the blind leading the blind.....( It's a joke....Take a breath )


It comes down to RESPECT ! The (Pros) don't respect the Uninformed,noobs......And in turn, the noobs don't give "DO" respect in return
What to do about it......Don't respond, you choose to get pissed -off, Pick out the ones you can help and ignore the rest....WTF?


yet they create threads about it and cry all day.
 

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