Well Then, Shall We Just Let the Blind Lead the Blind?

[The_Traveler]

In my generation we had to walk 5 miles to school in knee deep snow, uphill both ways, with the burning hot sun overhead and no shade or water in a raging sandstorm where the grit penetrated every crevice of my body and where wolves tracked us for days and hostile Indians menaced us and war was declared and the enemy bombed our convoy where people were dropping like flies from cholera and vultures circled our tracks and we had to use liquid emulsion and mercury developer that caused us to go crazy and run down a rabbit hole where the Red Queen threatened to chop our heads off.

I thought the italics were a good touch.

 

[Gaerek]

Derrel, you REALLY want to blame the whole generation for this?
I don't quite understand, why does someone has to be at a certain age or to be born in a certain era, to understand what are you saying. If you look up my post in this thread, you'll see I've written basically the same. How old does that make me?

You say, that when you were younger, you had to get everything by yourself. What makes you think today is any different?

I'm 30. I'm part of the age of entitlement. My parents raised me and my brother to realize that the world owes me nothing and if I want something, I have to work for it. For every generalization, there are always exceptions. It seems you and I are two of them.

 

[pgriz]

Ok, Traveller, you had it harder than I did. I just had to dodge the kid at the end of the block who always wanted to beat me up. I usually lost him running across the train tracks.

 

[ghache]

Ok, Traveller, you had it harder than I did. I just had to dodge the kid at the end of the block who always wanted to beat me up. I usually lost him running across the train tracks.

You should have stayed home transcripting books by hand its far less dangerous.

 

[Overread36]

1) Telling someone to Read the ****ing Manual (RTFM) as a reply is neither polite nor terribly constructive. A frosty reply can certainly jar someone to advice even if its good advice.

Gotta disagree with you there, your Moderatorship, sir: There are times when this is a valid and appropriate response. Questions such as, "How do I change the shutter-speed on my camera" or "What does "----" mean on my camera's LCD?"

Ahh but you missed the point - telling someone where the information they seek is located is not the problem - is the attitude of the reply.

"The answer to what the shutter speed is in your manual that came with the camera - if you've lost this or got the camera second hand without it, then its also on your manufactures website for download"

is far more constructive than

"RTFM" (in acronyms or full text).


Both are saying the same thing, but the latter reply comes off as elitist and snobbish - especially to a new person to the site who has not had the time to grow accustomed to the brisk styles of some. And this is where a lot of the problem is - short sharp replies (which might not seem short or sharp but are missread through ambiguity of the net) are seen as offensive and then we fast end up in another fight.






As for this thread its clear that some people feel that we do need a range of sticky threads (or more properly one sticky with links to a series of treads) to deal with a number of typical questions that appear from time to time. That a link to this information thread might be included in a welcoming pm to members of the site is also an option which might be possible to put on the cards (I don't deal with site coding so can't say for certain).
As such what is needed is the generation of the resource of information so that regular members can at least have a supply of "read this it might help" links they can use from the sticky.

And someone still has to tell me what is wrong with the posting pictures on the site sticky.

 

[Village Idiot]

Always the same people stiring ****. If you feel that a questions has been asked 10001101 times and you dont feel like saying your bull**** over again, move along, dont post ****. you ****in people need to get a life. GET A LIFE, if nobody respond to them, they will search for answers.

Its funny that every thread on this forum that turns into a mess you always seems to see the same people arguing about the same bull****. this place is going to the ****ter because some assholes think they run this place. In fact, they do.

If it makes you so mad that I speak my mind to inform a noob that they should do a little research first, why don't you go to another forum where everyone bows down to the noobs and services them with rainbows and unicorn farts so that you don't have to read my posts?

, Im not mad at you for telling someone to do a lil research. dont put words in my mouth....I just find it ****in funny how you peoples make stupid thread about how this place should be and ***** like craying babies. WHY YOU and the other ass clowns dont go somewhere else so you dont FEEL THE NEED of answereing the same bull**** over and over? 5 more new member is going to join today and ask about the same basic stuff without seaching ****. Just get over it people and dont look. dont reply, dont bother replying, its a ****in internet forum and why YOU dont you go to another forum ? you seems to have a problem with this place. LOL

Why don't you go to a forum where people sitting around hugging the noobs and doing everything they request. You could make them coffee or tea and give them backrubs while explaining what a shutter is 20 times a day. If it bothers you that I express my opinion, you should go to another forum where people aren't allowed to have opinions.

MY GENERATION: Dag nabbit, we didn't have them computer machines that made life so easy and we had to write with twigs and ink made from berries!

TODAY's YOUTH: Log on to Amazon, and download it to your freaking Kindle in 3 minutes, then skim through a couple of chapters.

 

[mishele]

Can we sticky this thread too?? That way I won't have to see another thread like this....lol

 

[ghache]

If it makes you so mad that I speak my mind to inform a noob that they should do a little research first, why don't you go to another forum where everyone bows down to the noobs and services them with rainbows and unicorn farts so that you don't have to read my posts?

, Im not mad at you for telling someone to do a lil research. dont put words in my mouth....I just find it ****in funny how you peoples make stupid thread about how this place should be and ***** like craying babies. WHY YOU and the other ass clowns dont go somewhere else so you dont FEEL THE NEED of answereing the same bull**** over and over? 5 more new member is going to join today and ask about the same basic stuff without seaching ****. Just get over it people and dont look. dont reply, dont bother replying, its a ****in internet forum and why YOU dont you go to another forum ? you seems to have a problem with this place. LOL

Why don't you go to a forum where people sitting around hugging the noobs and doing everything they request. You could make them coffee or tea and give them backrubs while explaining what a shutter is 20 times a day. If it bothers you that I express my opinion, you should go to another forum where people aren't allowed to have opinions.

MY GENERATION: Dag nabbit, we didn't have them computer machines that made life so easy and we had to write with twigs and ink made from berries!

TODAY's YOUTH: Log on to Amazon, and download it to your freaking Kindle in 3 minutes, then skim through a couple of chapters.

Ohh good lord.
cry more

okthxbye

 

[Kerbouchard]

MY GENERATION: Take a copy of The Amateur Photographer's Handbook, a 568 page volume. Then hand-copy it, page by page, in longhand, over parts of two different years, filling the fountain pen with Skrip synthetic ink from a freaking 50cc glass jar every 10 pages or so. Draw the illustrations by hand. You ***will*** learn something. I can assure you that you will learn.

TODAY's YOUTH: Log on to Amazon, and download it to your freaking Kindle in 3 minutes, then skim through a couple of chapters.

Your generation was into copyright infringement. Today's generation is into copyright infringement. Your way just took more time.

 

[Robin Usagani]

but download it trough amazon is legit yo! Photocopying it, it's not!

 

[ghache]

MY GENERATION: Take a copy of The Amateur Photographer's Handbook, a 568 page volume. Then hand-copy it, page by page, in longhand, over parts of two different years, filling the fountain pen with Skrip synthetic ink from a freaking 50cc glass jar every 10 pages or so. Draw the illustrations by hand. You ***will*** learn something. I can assure you that you will learn.

TODAY's YOUTH: Log on to Amazon, and download it to your freaking Kindle in 3 minutes, then skim through a couple of chapters.

Your generation was into copyright infringement. Today's generation is into copyright infringement. Your way just took more time.

hahahaha Thief should be jailed!

 

[ghache]

and he still has it in a SAFE?!?!?!?!??

 

[The_Traveler]

(I don't deal with site coding so can't say for certain).

Well, who can say - and how do we ask?

And someone still has to tell me what is wrong with the posting pictures on the site sticky.

Have you looked at it?

1) It has an example from a site no one uses.
Why isn't the example from Flickr, Photobucket or Imageshack that will cover 99% of all the uploads here?

2) The explanation for how upload to the site works covers a previous iteration of the software and the pictures don't match this version.

AND, how come the 'upload images from url' won't work unless a box, which is checked by default, is unchecked?
This has been mentioned several times in the last few months and no one seemingly has the connections to correct that simple defect.

 

[Overread36]

(I don't deal with site coding so can't say for certain).

Well, who can say - and how do we ask?

The site suggestions section or pming a site admin would be the best courses of action. However remember the whole idea is based upon key article threads, which would have to be written up before such a policy could be put into action. I will however flag the idea in the mod forum for consideration.

 

[Robin Usagani]

Overead, just start something. People can reply if they want to add something. You can keep editing the original post.