Well Then, Shall We Just Let the Blind Lead the Blind?

[pgriz]

Let’s be proactive and make up a list of stickies (or maybe just a good FAQ section).

How to post pics
How to ask for a critique
How to give a critique
How to operate your camera (complete with list of download sites for manuals)
How to use the M, Av an Tv modes
How to compare relative benefits of crop vs. full-frame sensors
How to meter exposure (and list of books/tutorial web sites that cover this)
How to use on-camera flash
How to use manual flash (usually off-camera)
How to use multiple flashes
Basic guidelines of composition
Basic guidelines for posing people
Basic post-processing
Comparision between P&S cameras and DSLR’s
How to test lenses
How to find sites that do lens and camera reviews.
How to achieve focus (manual and AF)
Tools for reducing/eliminating camera shake and/or subject blur
How to use the internet to get answers to questions you don’t know how to ask
What is a troll and how to avoid same.
How to find or avoid Ken Rockwell.

Add others as you see fit.

 

[Raian-san]

But quick question, I need suggestions for my first DSLR

 

[Gaerek]

But quick question, I need suggestions for my first DSLR

Canon, definitely.

 

[pgriz]

Oh yeah, I forgot.

Why Canon is superior to everything else.
Why Nikon is superior to everything else.
Why Pentax as shot by Miss Cream is truly superior to everything else.
Why equipment doesn't matter.

 

[Geaux]

Best computer to edit photos?

 

[MissCream]

Oh yeah, I forgot.

Why Canon is superior to everything else.
Why Nikon is superior to everything else.
Why Pentax as shot by Miss Cream is truly superior to everything else.
Why equipment doesn't matter.

Fantastic idea.

 

[The_Traveler]

Griz's list is good but much too much, imo, to be included in an email for a newbie

I think the email can cover these few topics as links.

How to post pics
How to ask for a critique and How to give a critique
How to use the site search functions to find previous discussions on common topics.
How to use the internet to get answers to questions you don’t know how to ask

and a link to our tutorials thread also.

If we can get some assurance that will will actually happen from the tech people behiond the curtain, I will be happy to write the letter and to create/edit one of the linked topics.

Lew

 

[MissCream]

Griz's list is good but much too much, imo, to be included in an email for a newbie

I think the email can cover these few topics as links.

How to post pics
How to ask for a critique and How to give a critique
How to use the site search functions to find previous discussions on common topics.
How to use the internet to get answers to questions you don’t know how to ask

And of course
Why Pentax as shot by Miss Cream is truly superior to everything else.

 

[Raian-san]

How about not letting them post a new thread without at least posting 10 in other threads, or until they use the Search option to find what they need?

 

[pgriz]

I agree with Traveller that that list is 'way too much info for an e-mail, but it could work as a FAQ/sticky. Actually, that kind of stuff would be really neat as a "wiki" and would be an asset to the site.
The potential conflict of interest will be in referencing other sites... Unless the site owners got some kind of reciprocal linking rights...

 

[mrstravis]

Agreed.

Kun, it's FRUSTRATING as HELL. I get it. It frustrates me even more to know how much *I've* grown from all of your (you rude, bitchy, trolling, mean, hobby-proists ) C&C and tips, and I don't recall ever getting defensive about it once. If I ever came *off* that way I think it was established at some point in the thread that it was because I was confused, not resisting. And you know... I'm confused a lot. :lmao:

To know how much I've grown in just a short year and a half (not that I don't have a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG way to go...), taking criticism as humbly as possible and with great consideration for my next shoot, and then seeing newbies come on and complain that someone saying their image was uninteresting, or lacked contrast, or wasn't straight, or that they cut this or that off... is rude. That's frustrating for *me* to see.

Because *I'M* not done learning yet. And these idiots are chasing all of you rude people off that I'm still benefitting from. And yes. There's a lot of "me" in that statement.

I even try to help here and there when I can, but when it comes down to someone who thinks they're God's gift to photography after 2 days of owning a camera, I just put them on a mental ignore list.

I think if all of you OOOH so rude seasoned hobby-proists would just ignore the idiots... they'll 1. Go away. 2. The people that need the help and WANT the help, GET the help, because everyone is ignoring the "YOU ARE SOOOOOO RUDE!" drama thread and applying their know-how elsewhere and 3. Uh. Well. There was a 3. I don't remember now.

Don't give up on the willing newbs! :sillysmi: And don't give up on us semi-newbs either

There are still people willing to accept your forward payment... you just gotta machete your way through the weeds to find the growing flowers.

Agreed!!!!

 

[Overread36]

Griz's list is good but much too much, imo, to be included in an email for a newbie

I think the email can cover these few topics as links.

How to post pics
How to ask for a critique and How to give a critique
How to use the site search functions to find previous discussions on common topics.
How to use the internet to get answers to questions you don’t know how to ask

and a link to our tutorials thread also.

If we can get some assurance that will will actually happen from the tech people behiond the curtain, I will be happy to write the letter and to create/edit one of the linked topics.

Lew

It might take more than few hours for all the mods to get a look in - esp the admin ones who would be the ones to decide on the potential of a welcome pm concept. Regardless the production of a series of informative articles for newer photographers and the linking of them in a reference sticky would not be out of the question. The biggest problem is just getting the individual articles written up for a launch of the idea - and for that we will need members willing to write them.

 

[The_Traveler]

There are already basic articles referenced in the tutorial thread and we could use those as a start.

For example, you wrote a post on how to get and give c/c that good serve as a good start (maybe thinned down a bit) and I know others reading this thread have seen other good articles.
We could use that good tutorial thread but let it be a work in progress, edited as we can.




We can't let perfection be the enemy of good.

 

[jake337]

A sticky on how to use the bathroom for sure...

 

[pgriz]

Oh yeah, I forgot.

Why Canon is superior to everything else.
Why Nikon is superior to everything else.
Why Pentax as shot by Miss Cream is truly superior to everything else.
Why equipment doesn't matter.

Fantastic idea.

You know, though, that Overread is going to be looking to you for a written article on this, right?