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Hi you mentioned Amazon their wherehouse section sometimes has deals.
A review site called DPREVIEW has the option for side by side comparison hope this helps
 
Thanks! Yes, I'm keeping an eye out on sales and prime day is coming up too. I might have to get a new laptop unfortunately so am keeping an eye out for deals on both all around online and off. Just taking the time to research more. I have a friend who is trying to steer me towards a canon too. Lots of info and opinions to take in but I suppose it's worth the wait to learn more and make a good choice.
 
I suggest the D5600 with the 18-55mm VR AF-P lens, although the D3500 is a very good option if you don't need the flippy screen (I have never used a camera with a flippy screen).

Add an extra battery (Nikon EN-EL14a - works with either of the above cameras) and memory card (I currently use SanDisk SDHC 32GB Extreme Pro 95mb/s - these cards are now very cheap and are plenty fast for these cameras) - so you start out with two batteries and two memory cards.

Three external hard drives - one for day to day image storage and the other two are backup. I use a 1tb SSD for day to day and two 4tb for backup (you could start out with a couple 1tb USB3 drives to keep initial cost down).

Messenger style camera bag or similar to carry it - best camera is the one you have with you.


After a year add the 70-300mm VR AF-P lens (the non-VR version is often part of the bundles and I would not buy that bundle). I find my 70-300mm VR is an excellent lens for close-up images of plants and small animals. You will want to have used your camera for a year before adding this lens.

In another year and add the true macro lens (along with a tripod and flash).
 
I do not know anything about digital cameras, but i just wanted to say....... it is very Commendable/Encouraging that you spent a lot of time taking pictures with your cell phone, and then realized you were ready for a "real camera".
Good Luck
 
I have a friend who is trying to steer me towards a canon too.

he he
Canon AND Nikon both have good gear. flip a coin.
I may be a Nikon shooter, but I am not blind to the competition.
In fact I will sadly admit that the Canon 18-135 is a smoother zooming lens than the Nikon 18-140.
 
I have a friend who is trying to steer me towards a canon too.

he he
Canon AND Nikon both have good gear. flip a coin.
I may be a Nikon shooter, but I am not blind to the competition.
In fact I will sadly admit that the Canon 18-135 is a smoother zooming lens than the Nikon 18-140.
And, Canon shooters can say “pew pew pew” when taking pictures. Nikon doesn’t provide that option.
 
Thank you everyone! Resisting the urge to buy one on impulse. Hopefully will get one within the next month or two though.
 
I took some shots of a waterfall including a slow shutter shot. No tripod and I would not have lugged it up the mountain if I had it with me.

I never thought I would use the flip screen but it was very handy. I had to put the camera on a rock but couldn’t get down to the viewfinder.
 
A flip out screen is essential for macro and close up nature stuff. It's one of those things that you don't know what you're missing until you have one! Get the body only (5600) then buy a used lens to go with...
 
My personal preference is to buy used Nikon digital single lens reflex cameras from an outfit that offers reasonable prices and in person examination of the items. For example a $1299 D 7200 is now available for around $475 or less on the used market. A former elite $8000 Nikon D3X is now available for around $1150 on the used market. As a camera gets older it's retail price drops and it's used market price plummets.

I think it would be very possible for you to buy a nice used DSLR and a decent lens for probably around $200-$225.

One thing to know is that Nikons best selling cameras are typically two generations back of the current model, and at which point they have hit their lowest new prices ever. Many stores such as Kmart and Best Buy are still selling Nikon models which were introduced 4 to 5 years ago, and are not new models, but are sold as NOS,which means new old stock.

Over the last year or so camera sales Have dropped off dramatically, and I believe that in a few months time the market will be completely flooded with cameras.
 
If you want to really get my advice OP - start researching mirrorless. It's the future.
 
Yep ask any mirrorless user... they will tell you mirrorless is the future. Of course, right now we are in the transition
Period. At this time the lower cost cameras are typically digital single lens reflex models, available very inexpensively, especially used models.

The advantage of most mirrorless cameras is that they can be adapted to use inexpensive legacy lenses from multiple manufacturers, but most of the time that means manually focusing and a severe loss of other automatic features. However until you become an experienced photographer using manual focus legacy lenses on the modern camera is not nearly as easy as using a current technology autofocusing lens on an auto focusing camera. Many times people become enamored of the idea of saving money by using adapted lenses on modern mirrorless cameras But the ideal Camera for a beginner is one using a native lens thst automatically focuses and which gives you 99% or more of your photos in focus and properly exposed with a minimum of fussing. Mirrorless cameras are extremely popular with people who are looking for ways to put to use lens collections of 30 and 40-year-old manual-focusing lenses.

My experience is that beginners do best using the really modern simple to use cameras, cameras which are designed to be easy to use. Beginning level Nikon cameras like 3500 or 3300 or 3400 or 5300-5400 or 5500 or 5600 are designed for beginning photographers to be able to use easily and with good results.

I have about 45 years of photography experience and I have used cameras made in the 1930s 40s 50s 60s 70s 80s and 1990s and throughout this century. Cameras really have not changed that much in the past 25 years, and if you can run a cell phone, you can run a modern digital camera.
 
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I think the EVF is a big advantage for a beginner learning the exposure triangle. You can change settings and see through the viewfinder what the change does to the photo.
 
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Yep ask any mirrorless user... they will tell you mirrorless is the future. Of course, right now we are in the transition
Period.
  • The mirrorless that I have experience with (Olympus EM1), is part of the way there, but still has a ways to go to just catch up to the dSLR in some areas.
    • I shoot an Olympus EM1 as my primary camera, but I still use my Nikon D7200 dSLR for fast sports, where the Olympus just does not work, for me. Shooting TWO systems is probably the worst of both worlds, because of the cost and logistics of running two systems.
  • The EVF is really nice, as @SquarePeg said. Especially good for difficult lighting conditions.
    • But the Olympus EVF on the EM1 isn't up to fast sports.
  • Sorta like one step forward, one step back. Mirrorless gains, but also looses.
At this time the lower cost cameras are typically digital single lens reflex models, available very inexpensively, especially used models.

The advantage of most mirrorless cameras is that they can be adapted to use inexpensive legacy lenses from multiple manufacturers, but most of the time that means manually focusing and a severe loss of other automatic features.

Nikon lens on a m4/3 camera
  • As of a few months back, there was NO adapter that would communicate between a Nikon lens and a m4/3 camera.
  • Nikon lenses loose ALL automated functions when used on a m4/3 camera. The lens is auto-nothing. Effectively you are back to the 1960s.
  • And if it is a focus by wire lens, you can't even manually focus the lens.
This compatibility/incompatibility varies by each lens and camera model combination.
  • The Canon EF lens will autofocus on a m4/3 camera, using a smart adapter.
  • The Nikon AF-S lens will autofocus on the Nikon Z camera with the FTZ adapter, but the AF/AF-D lenses will not autofocus.
However until you become an experienced photographer using manual focus legacy lenses on the modern camera is not nearly as easy as using a current technology autofocusing lens on an auto focusing camera. Many times people become enamored of the idea of saving money by using adapted lenses on modern mirrorless cameras But the ideal Camera for a beginner is one using a native lens that automatically focuses and which gives you 99% or more of your photos in focus and properly exposed with a minimum of fussing.
  • Even if you are experienced at manual focusing, autofocus is soooo much easier.
    I would NOT give up AF on my primary cameras.
  • This is something that I just do not understand. When people recommend to a newbie to use a manual focus lens. :confused:
  • And it is worse on a dSLR, cuz the screen is not designed for easy manual focusing.
Mirrorless cameras are extremely popular with people who are looking for ways to put to use lens collections of 30 and 40-year-old manual-focusing lenses.

My experience is that beginners do best using the really modern simple to use cameras, cameras which are designed to be easy to use. Beginning level Nikon cameras like 3500 or 3300 or 3400 or 5300-5400 or 5500 or 5600 are designed for beginning photographers to be able to use easily and with good results.

Agree
Most of my yearbook students shoot in one of the scene mode. But at least they use the correct scene.
I have a hard time getting them to use PAS, never mind M.
They use the dSLR like a P&S, which is really like a phone camera, point and shoot.
To their credit, they do a good job.
. . . if you can run a cell phone, you can run a modern digital camera.

:eek: I had to have one of my students teach me how to use some of the apps on my phone. Old foggie here.
 
There are so many options to consider. I'm not sure if I'm closer or further from purchasing a camera now. lol! I do appreciate all the information though. Thank you everyone for taking the time to share your experience.

I did run into the mirrorless options when reading about different cameras and wildlife photography, I was intrigued. I mainly steered away from them due to the price range.

Originally I was leaning towards purchasing new but I will look more seriously into used options... I think it would be great if I could find a deal in the $200.00 range and upgrade in the future if wanted.
 

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