How to deal with hardcore photographers?

[12sndsgood]

i try to get to the zoo when they first open in the morning when there being fed so there active. by 2 around here most of the main animals are asleep in the shade out of the way. yeah the sun is great. but not much fun taking a photo of a lions but as he sleeps.


id say if they are giving bad advice just ignore them. if dude wants to go to the zoo at 2 let him. tell him youlle be done and home by then.

 

[Alex_B]

I come across with extreme photographers. They thinks they know everything, but they don't. They treated me like I don't know anything. One guy told me he wanted to shoot photos in the zoo at 2:00 afternoon to get good sun light on the animals. I have photographed the animals at 10:00 in the morning and still get good photos of the animals with good sun lighting. Another guy told me I can't get good photos while riding in a car on the highway, and I can't get good pictures of the animals in the zoo. I still get good photos on the highway and zoo animals with no problem. What's up with those people? They maybe good at one thing, but they are not good at everything.

option one: ignore them

option two: give silly answers ("I am just an amateur, thanks for the advice" ... or "I am not really a photographer, I just hold a big camera to look important.")

Just don't try to start a serious conversation, unless you are really bored

 

[tecboy]

Yep, I'm a morning kind of persons. I go to zoo and museum and shoot immediately by the time they open. If 2 afternoon, I probably be tire and don't want to shoot anymore. I have already made several enemies, and hopefully, I will not see them again. For those of you never heard Do something, Learn something, Share something, Change something - Meetup, I have started a meetup group, and boy, it is not easy. I can't get everyone to join my group and go to events. Some have rejected my group already. However, I have 2 months experiences so far and still shooting photos for fun. I enjoy a lot regardless what others says. I have Canon T3i, and it is not top of a line, but it is good enough to take high quality photos. I was being assertive to those people. I guess they don't want to listen at all. Thanks guys for the responses. I will definitely take your advice and not letting me down.

 

[Overread17 5]

Maybe they do know something you don't
Or maybe the quotation "you can't get good photos" refers to a specific appearance or quality or composition/artistic direction that really is indeed impossible or hard to get in the specific conditions. As quotations on their own they are all but impossible to decern if they are just mad ramblings or serious points - lacking some expansion of the point itself.

Generally I find that if people give me odd statements one can ignore or ask for clarification on their reasoning. Typically the latter part sifts the fools from the knowledgeable as the latter group can give you explanations as to their reasoning whilst the former only know the short version (which might be simply something that applies only to their own standards or is copied from someone elses standards).

 

[minooo]

It reminds me of a client(I am a minilab manager and I am from a family of photographers since my grandpa').

One individual came to the lab one day with a digital point and shoot camera that was having a slightly larger body.
It was the beginnings of digital cameras era, so these cameras where lousy then. Those days I was having a Canon EOS3 and my boss had a Nikon F5.

This guy provoked me in photographic discussions(and I have to tell you that he was totally off the domain), but every time I disagreed him, he would show me his camera as a argument of the supperiority of his sayings.
He was having the latest technology, so film cameras and their owners... :thumbdown:

 

[jwbryson1]

Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

 

[pgriz]

So, are you training for a missionary position? If not, treat them as you would the internet noisemakers - listen, pick up what is relevant, ignore the rest. With many people, what they tell you is partly right, partly wrong. The good ones are more right than wrong, the bad ones, the other way around. Life's way too short to correct other people's faults and issues, especially if they aren't asking for help with these. On the other hand, if you are so inclined, they can be good for entertainment value, as Stradawhovious noted. "Jerking the chain" I think it is called.

 

[rexbobcat]

Let's fight superiority with superiority. Yeaaaahhhhh!!

 

[DiskoJoe]

I assume most hobbies have similar jerks. In my other hobby of model railroading there are participants who think they know everything about modeling and railroading. They're generally known as "rivet counters" for their supposed knowledge that such and such a railroad car had so many rivets, your model of it is wrong because it doesn't have the correct amount of rivets.

Mostly they are blowhards, and when asked to display their modeling efforts, they usually say they don't have any, are too busy, etc. They're often also referred to as "armchair modelers", as all they do is read about the hobby, never do any real work.

Just ignore the wannabees!

Rivet counter! Classic!

 

[Tony S]

Nod your head up and down , say "wow", and smile... Just don't let them know the smile is you really laughing you ass off at them.

 

[mommy-medic]

I have already made several enemies, and hopefully, I will not see them again....,However, I have 2 months experiences so far and still shooting photos for fun....I was being assertive to those people. I guess they don't want to listen at all. Thanks guys for the responses. I will definitely take your advice and not letting me down.

Is something getting lost in translation or what? It sounds like you are being the arrogant know it all. ?

 

[tecboy]

I have already made several enemies, and hopefully, I will not see them again....,However, I have 2 months experiences so far and still shooting photos for fun....I was being assertive to those people. I guess they don't want to listen at all. Thanks guys for the responses. I will definitely take your advice and not letting me down.

Is something getting lost in translation or what? It sounds like you are being the arrogant know it all. ?

I think I have made you an enemy.

 

[tecboy]

10 AM and 2 PM are basically the same light... Just from the other direction.

That would make sense with one directional shadow. I wonder how is that good with 2 PM shadow with all the animals surrounding in different directions? I was shooting pictures from 10am to 4pm and still get good photos. Not to mention after 2 pm, the shadows get longer.

 

[Kbarredo]

I come across with extreme photographers. They thinks they know everything, but they don't. They treated me like I don't know anything. One guy told me he wanted to shoot photos in the zoo at 2:00 afternoon to get good sun light on the animals. I have photographed the animals at 10:00 in the morning and still get good photos of the animals with good sun lighting. Another guy told me I can't get good photos while riding in a car on the highway, and I can't get good pictures of the animals in the zoo. I still get good photos on the highway and zoo animals with no problem. What's up with those people? They maybe good at one thing, but they are not good at everything.

Do what I do. Bert stare them and growl. That usually scares them off.

 

[chuasam]

I come across with extreme photographers. They thinks they know everything, but they don't. They treated me like I don't know anything. One guy told me he wanted to shoot photos in the zoo at 2:00 afternoon to get good sun light on the animals. I have photographed the animals at 10:00 in the morning and still get good photos of the animals with good sun lighting. Another guy told me I can't get good photos while riding in a car on the highway, and I can't get good pictures of the animals in the zoo. I still get good photos on the highway and zoo animals with no problem. What's up with those people? They maybe good at one thing, but they are not good at everything.

Just tell him that zoo photography is for noobs. The hard core folk shoot in the wild