Question about a release

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  1. hokies2379

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    Wasn’t sure where to put this, please move if needed.

    Curious if everyone reads this the same way I do. I can’t post these pics to my social media/website but if the publication I shot for does, I can share from there?

    Is everyone reading this the same or have I gone mad?

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    That's exactly what it means. Pretty standard for any bigger-name act. You're getting a free ticket to a concert... what more do you want?
     
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    Yes and no. We were escorted to the door after our allotted number of songs. So, not exactly.

    Just simply making sure I was reading it correctly. I usually shoot mid level names, but this is probably the second biggest name I’ve shot. The biggest said “post away once we approve.”

    Either way, simple curiosity. Thank you for taking the time.


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    That's about it, getting a ticket, getting in free. If even, I wouldn't assume... The only free tickets I know has been with local teams that gave free tickets to people that did stats, etc. So they got in free but worked the event, which could be a lot of fun and a good exchange of free tix and fun work.

    To me it seems like you will be issued a photo pass and will be allowed access to a designated area to take photos for the first three songs. The publication will be able to use your photos for their publication or on their website. The band and venue seem to have the rights to usage.

    Usually a photographer would be able to use what was always referred to as a 'tear sheet' to show their photos that were published. For example, I had a photo published in a local team's brochure years ago and a copy of the brochure with my photo in it is a 'tear sheet'. I think it would be similar to someone's photo being published in a magazine, ad, etc.

    This doesn't seem to address anything like that or allow for your usage of the photos in your portfolio. I suppose you could share a link to their website on your social media like people do on their blogs and social media with any website that's 'out there'. If they publish your photo with a photo credit that would show it was your photo. Otherwise I'm not sure how you would show it was your photo that was used.

    This looks to me like it could provide an opportunity for experience shooting for a short time and provide access to what could be an area closer to the stage and off limits to the public. Other than some experience and maybe a free ticket I don't see you being able to use the photos you take.

    What I dislike about this is not having anything that specifies usage other than it would be in their publication or on their website. It doesn't seem to indicate for how long they can continue to use your photos, or if your photos will be accompanied by a photo credit or not.

    I'm not sure if it would be worth it unless you want to go to the concert and this gets you in free. If getting experience is what interests you I'd think about finding local community concerts that are open to the public and where attendees are allowed to bring cameras and take photos. That might allow for you to take photos for experiece and maybe for your portfolio.
     
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    Okay, getting shown the gate after three songs seems a little rude. You didn't receive anything else?
     
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    2 songs. Changed when we got there. Unusual. However this band plays long songs.

    Nope. Nothing else.


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    The show was tonight. I did it. It was an arena show, relatively huge name. I’m a fan. Paid by a publication to do it. I’ve shot about 100 shows but this is only the second ....no, third time I’ve had one of these put in front of me.

    First time they said I could post after they approved.

    Second time they never actually had me sign anything and still let me shoot.

    Tonight they didn’t budge. It was sign or leave. I wasn’t leaving.

    Hopefully the publication posts them in a timely fashion (as in, tomorrow) I got some bangers and I’d really love for folks to see them.


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    Wait, you were in on a regular commercial media pass, NOT a "Fan" media pass?
     
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    Didn’t know there was such a thing as a fan media pass.




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    I take that back. I did know that.

    But yeah I’m always shooting for a publication.


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    That's perfectly normal - they're in the business of making money; they're going to give you only the minimum in order to get the media coverage they want. Make sure you let your editor know that you were turfed before you were supposed to have been.
     
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    I think we got away from the original question. I was simply just making sure I was reading the waiver right. Haha.

    Thanks for all your input


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