Some of my last photos taken in 2011 (Non Christmas)

[Ballistics]

Is this real life?

 

[MTVision]

hay naptime, i got it in a pm

Of course - its always in a PM!!!

 

[photo guy]

Thank you Ballistics, at least someone is being nice this week and seem like they want to help?

 

[Ballistics]

Thank you Ballistics, at least someone is being nice this week and seem like they want to help?

I defended you in the other thread when that guy Juice legitimately insulted you and your images, this thread however has a mixed bag. The blame is shared among many posters
in this thread, not 1 single person.

Your images are lacking, I think we should figure out what the issue may be. I understand that your camera is definitely hindering your progress but I think you can do a little better.
Perhaps forget about composition all together and just work on becoming technically proficient with your camera then worry about the art side later.

While you are being a bit sensitive with members responses, some of the members are taking it too far with the treatment towards you. Unless you are doing something that is blatantly offensive
and I am missing it, it seems like there is a little bit of ganging up going on here and everyone who is taking part should grow up and knock it off.

As for you PG, you gotta man up a little and expect less than courteous responses on the internet.

 

[LightSpeed]

Thank you Ballistics, at least someone is being nice this week and seem like they want to help?

I defended you in the other thread when that guy Juice legitimately insulted you and your images, this thread however has a mixed bag. The blame is shared among many posters
in this thread, not 1 single person.

Your images are lacking, I think we should figure out what the issue may be. I understand that your camera is definitely hindering your progress but I think you can do a little better.
Perhaps forget about composition all together and just work on becoming technically proficient with your camera then worry about the art side later.

While you are being a bit sensitive with members responses, some of the members are taking it too far with the treatment towards you. Unless you are doing something that is blatantly offensive
and I am missing it, it seems like there is a little bit of ganging up going on here and everyone who is taking part should grow up and knock it off.

As for you PG, you gotta man up a little and expect less than courteous responses on the internet.

Ballistics, I'm just messing with him. I don't really think anyone here wants to hurt his feelings.
The dude is highly entertaining. He's not giving up either.
Quite a few of us are on his side. He just doesn't see that.

 

[blackrose89]

YES!!! Read through the threads, Lightspeed even proposed a very nice gesture and PG turned around basically called him an idiot. We had been nothing been nice.

 

[Ballistics]

Thank you Ballistics, at least someone is being nice this week and seem like they want to help?

I defended you in the other thread when that guy Juice legitimately insulted you and your images, this thread however has a mixed bag. The blame is shared among many posters
in this thread, not 1 single person.

Your images are lacking, I think we should figure out what the issue may be. I understand that your camera is definitely hindering your progress but I think you can do a little better.
Perhaps forget about composition all together and just work on becoming technically proficient with your camera then worry about the art side later.

While you are being a bit sensitive with members responses, some of the members are taking it too far with the treatment towards you. Unless you are doing something that is blatantly offensive
and I am missing it, it seems like there is a little bit of ganging up going on here and everyone who is taking part should grow up and knock it off.

As for you PG, you gotta man up a little and expect less than courteous responses on the internet.

Ballistics, I'm just messing with him. I don't really think anyone here wants to hurt his feelings.
The dude is highly entertaining. He's not giving up either.
Quite a few of us are on his side. He just doesn't see that.

Well it's hard to see who's on who's side after a thread like this... and then blackrose makes a thread mocking him. There are lines being drawn, and those lines are clearly being crossed.

 

[Ballistics]

YES!!! Read through the threads, Lightspeed even proposed a very nice gesture and PG turned around basically called him an idiot. We had been nothing been nice.

So then stop responding. Making a thread dedicated to mocking the man isn't going to do anything but create more drama.

 

[jterry85]

I can't believe this guy needs attention this bad, not to mention how much it seems he does NOT want help. I mean do you really think that getting critique on your work is going to be only positive? You got too much pride and arrogance my friend. The first shots I seriously posted were of the eiffel tower (you can look it up too if you want) and I was damn proud of those shots! I thought they were the best shots ever and I couldn't wait to share them with everyone here on the forum and rake in all the cheers and applause for them and you know what? I got three responses and they all said they were underexposed! Now instead of getting all butt hurt and mad (which is always the first reaction when someone criticizes your work) I looked at my shots again and ya know what? THEY WERE RIGHT!!! So instead of arguing with them because I am the Lord Of All Photography, I went back and edited them (which I will be posting in that thread later, now that I think about it) and in addition I had one of them printed out as a 20"x30" to frame and hang on my wall because even if the edited version doesn't get a ton of praise I'M STILL PROUD OF IT AND IT'S MINE!!! Quit seeking other peoples approval because you'll never get it and it's not even important because YOU DON'T NEED IT! Do what you do for you and if you like it then don't worry about what other people say. I happened to like one of my shots that was called underexposed and left it that way. Art is all about perception my friend.

 

[thereyougo!]

I think one of my problems is that my main area is a specialized photography that a lot of people don't have the knowledge or background in. I have a 3" 3-ring binder full of the info I utilize and need to know to do it and am succeeding. If I wasn't doing something right in that aspect, I wouldn't have even been published in a magazine or the paper 2 times this year. Now I want to expand to learn other areas and have used some of the advice already only to be accused of not listening to anything and not learning or willing to learn. Please, if that is what is wrong then correct me. Thank You

Doesn't matter about types of photography. Compositional and exposure rules are the same. This is something you have been told before but you choose to ignore.

 

[thereyougo!]

To put things into perspective, I am 41. I have been taking pictures for maybe 30 years. Does that mean I have been a photographer for 30 years? Of course not. I gave been taking photos for only a few years and taking it even more seriously for the last 18 months. It's all about scale.

Photo Guy: by all means post in other sections and have no C&C, but that way you will not grow. Please do as I, Ballistics and Bitter Jeweler and several others have suggested and take a break on posting and spend some time reading and practising. Megan has given you exercises. Why not try them out and then in say a week post the results here? You need to do a great of thinking about your actions. You may well think you've been hard done by, but I have seen people treated worse and they haven't complained in the way you do. A number of people have made very generous offers some of which you haven't shown any kind of gratitude for. Lightspeed's is a particularly generous one. Merge two great offers of help.

Follow Megan's exercises and post them. Who knows after a while you might have a winner. You can sort out what to do about a delivery address at a later date. It could be sent to the Fire Department you volunteer for should not wish to share your personal details. Judging your results? This could be done by a panel perhaps so that you aren't open to the whole site wading in. I'm happy to judge if that's what people want. I would suggest Lightspeed as he's offering the printing, Megan (MTVision) as it's her exercises, and a few others respected on here. It would need to be something that we all could see being nice hung on a wall. Just an idea, might be a God awful idea, but I'm trying as hard as I can to help you get a positive end out of this.

I think you are using PM as the wrong kind of tool. You are having too many conversations with people behind closed doors and then there are unsaid things here which can be awkward. Remember that sending someone an pm can invade someone's space and aren't to be used to attack people. I think you need to show how open to learning you are, so much of this, after a learning break from the forum should be in an open thread.

Just my tuppence worth

 

[manaheim]

PG's issue isn't his camera. It isn't his lack of experience. It's his attitude.

You don't learn by constantly arguing with and talking over people with more experience than you.

This is not an insult, it is a clinical assessment.

 

[Tee]

I think one of my problems is that my main area is a specialized photography that a lot of people don't have the knowledge or background in.

While photojournalism is a unique subset of photography, you're making it sound like you're in some secret skull and bones club. Your statement makes it feel like we're all supposed to step back and say "well, golly, he's a super secret photojournalist. His underexposed photos must mean something different." Quit resting on the idea that you're a big red fire truck shooter and nobody else is. This whole "official photographer" sounds a little embellished. You might get buy with this title on a fire department specific forum but on most photo forums, if you're gonna give yourself a grandiose title, there's an expectation to back it up. You haven't. That's why you're being called out.

There's a girl on here a short while ago who went gangbusters with posting the same photos over and over again and didn't take a word of anyone's advice. You must be that "pro photographer" friend she had out west who's advice she was taking.

 

[Tee]

Thank you Ballistics, at least someone is being nice this week and seem like they want to help?

I defended you in the other thread when that guy Juice legitimately insulted you and your images, this thread however has a mixed bag. The blame is shared among many posters
in this thread, not 1 single person.

Your images are lacking, I think we should figure out what the issue may be. I understand that your camera is definitely hindering your progress but I think you can do a little better.
Perhaps forget about composition all together and just work on becoming technically proficient with your camera then worry about the art side later.

While you are being a bit sensitive with members responses, some of the members are taking it too far with the treatment towards you. Unless you are doing something that is blatantly offensive
and I am missing it, it seems like there is a little bit of ganging up going on here and everyone who is taking part should grow up and knock it off.

As for you PG, you gotta man up a little and expect less than courteous responses on the internet.

I "liked" one of your replies in this thread because I think you hit the nail on the thread about not being confrontational. But there comes a point where when an OP just won't listen and it's blatantly obvious. It gets frustrating. Does the dog pile happen? Sure. I just did it above this post. There's this assumption that members on here instantly dog pile new members. Not true. It's generally an OP that sets the bait, sits back and then cries when they are not getting hand held assistance.

 

[SCraig]

So then stop responding. Making a thread dedicated to mocking the man isn't going to do anything but create more drama.

Yeah, good luck with that. I asked people to do the same thing in another thread, before this one was started, and here we are 13 pages into the same thing AGAIN. I think a lot of people just enjoy ganging up on someone that they will never meet in person.

I will say one thing though: I haven't been around this forum very long but there were some people I was developing a great deal of respect for. Their treatment of this poster has caused me to change my mind toward some of those people and what respect I had for them has gone right out the window.