Some of my last photos taken in 2011 (Non Christmas)

[Ethang]

I think one of my problems is that my main area is a specialized photography that a lot of people don't have the knowledge or background in. I have a 3" 3-ring binder full of the info I utilize and need to know to do it and am succeeding. If I wasn't doing something right in that aspect, I wouldn't have even been published in a magazine or the paper 2 times this year. Now I want to expand to learn other areas and have used some of the advice already only to be accused of not listening to anything and not learning or willing to learn. Please, if that is what is wrong then correct me. Thank You

then show your best photo now and your best photo from when you first began and well be the judge if you have improved

 

[Tee]

So then stop responding. Making a thread dedicated to mocking the man isn't going to do anything but create more drama.

Yeah, good luck with that. I asked people to do the same thing in another thread, before this one was started, and here we are 13 pages into the same thing AGAIN.

You can change how many posts are on a page in settings. I only show this thread as 7 pages. It makes it feel like it's less of a trainwreck.

 

[tirediron]

Ahh, whew! I was afraid that this was going to die overnight and I would have no laughs with my morning coffee!

 

[Ballistics]

Thank you Ballistics, at least someone is being nice this week and seem like they want to help?

I defended you in the other thread when that guy Juice legitimately insulted you and your images, this thread however has a mixed bag. The blame is shared among many posters
in this thread, not 1 single person.

Your images are lacking, I think we should figure out what the issue may be. I understand that your camera is definitely hindering your progress but I think you can do a little better.
Perhaps forget about composition all together and just work on becoming technically proficient with your camera then worry about the art side later.

While you are being a bit sensitive with members responses, some of the members are taking it too far with the treatment towards you. Unless you are doing something that is blatantly offensive
and I am missing it, it seems like there is a little bit of ganging up going on here and everyone who is taking part should grow up and knock it off.

As for you PG, you gotta man up a little and expect less than courteous responses on the internet.

I "liked" one of your replies in this thread because I think you hit the nail on the thread about not being confrontational. But there comes a point where when an OP just won't listen and it's blatantly obvious. It gets frustrating. Does the dog pile happen? Sure. I just did it above this post. There's this assumption that members on here instantly dog pile new members. Not true. It's generally an OP that sets the bait, sits back and then cries when they are not getting hand held assistance.

There's no assumption being made of the sort. My comments reflect the scenario in context only.
However, what I am seeing is people losing their patience because photo guy didn't follow a step and that's where 6 or 7 members jump in and bash him for not following directions.

Is he a bit mellow dramatic? Sure, but the abuse that ensues is unwarranted. The guy is a hard learner... so what? Does that really justify the crap that people are giving him? He said something along the lines of, 75 views and no comments? And people got up in arms about him demanding C&C. He did nothing of the sort! People are just looking to bash this guy because he is an easy target that gives a reaction they enjoy. There's something he apparently said or did (which most of the posters have no idea) that people are using as an excuse to join in on him. Being offensive and defensive are 2 very different things. This guy is just being defensive.

 

[LightSpeed]

Has anyone considered the thought that this may have been a plotted scene, right out of an AOL chat room? The reason I ask is because , like AOL chat rooms, ( and yes I am guilty of aoling as shameful as that may be) you have a screen name bust on the scene. At first everyone likes the new member. Then a few other members start scratching their heads...hmmmmm something doesn't seem right.<br>Then a few members make a few snide remarks. Next thing you know a lot of members are making snide remarks.

Enter stage 2: The new screen name becomes a victim. He/she then starts with , " I am nice to everyone and they are mean to me and pick on me all the time." Meanwhile provoking the entire episode. New entries to the chat, see this and the tide turns. Suddenly the new screen name is popular again and .....until the new entries figure out whats really going on.

And back and forth it goes..................back and forth back and forth into infinity. I'm not saying PG is a bad guy. I actually like the dude. What I'm saying is , if you go back to about 4 or 5 of his threads, you'll see a pattern form.

If you look at this thread, you'll see the same exact pattern. If you look real closely you'll see that PG consistently asks if people want to see the other photos and considered starting another thread/gallery and lays it right out there so everyone knows the intentions. This could well be, bait. In every possibility lies another possibility.
Do I think PG is a troll? No I do not. I think he's a comic genius who knows very well what he's doing. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him come up with something that blows everyones minds, and then get this: Ok LightSpeed, I'll take my free print now. At which time he will certainly get it, as I intend to honor my words. See, I aint here to hurt anybody, least of all PG. Do I find him humorous when he leaves himself wide open, such as the case where he tells Gipson " You've finally opened your eyes, what a miracle"? HELL YES. I admit it.

He may not being trying to be, but he sure as hell is funny sometimes. I don't know about the rest of you but I can't wait for him to make another thread.

 

[Ballistics]

Has anyone considered the thought that this may have been a plotted scene, right out of an AOL chat room? The reason I ask is because , like AOL chat rooms, ( and yes I am guilty of aoling as shameful as that may be) you have a screen name bust on the scene. At first everyone likes the new member. Then a few other members start scratching their heads...hmmmmm something doesn't seem right.<br>Then a few members make a few snide remarks. Next thing you know a lot of members are making snide remarks.

Enter stage 2: The new screen name becomes a victim. He/she then starts with , " I am nice to everyone and they are mean to me and pick on me all the time." Meanwhile provoking the entire episode. New entries to the chat, see this and the tide turns. Suddenly the new screen name is popular again and .....until the new entries figure out whats really going on.

And back and forth it goes..................back and forth back and forth into infinity. I'm not saying PG is a bad guy. I actually like the dude. What I'm saying is , if you go back to about 4 or 5 of his threads, you'll see a pattern form.

If you look at this thread, you'll see the same exact pattern. If you look real closely you'll see that PG consistently asks if people want to see the other photos and considered starting another thread/gallery and lays it right out there so everyone knows the intentions. This could well be, bait. In every possibility lies another possibility.
Do I think PG is a troll? No I do not. I think he's a comic genius who knows very well what he's doing. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him come up with something that blows everyones minds, and then get this: Ok LightSpeed, I'll take my free print now. At which time he will certainly get it, as I intend to honor my words. See, I aint here to hurt anybody, least of all PG. Do I find him humorous when he leaves himself wide open, such as the case where he tells Gipson " You've finally opened your eyes, what a miracle"? HELL YES. I admit it.

He may not being trying to be, but he sure as hell is funny sometimes. I don't know about the rest of you but I can't wait for him to make another thread.

Like i said earlier, he may be a part of the problem, but it's obvious that he is instigated. Just seems like he gets all crazy when people start antagonizing him, which is why people do it in the first place. I think it's safe to say at this point, the horse is dead.

 

[MTVision]

Like i said earlier, he may be a part of the problem, but it's obvious that he is instigated. Just seems like he gets all crazy when people start antagonizing him, which is why people do it in the first place. I think it's safe to say at this point, the horse is dead.

Oh that's such BS. He's been doing the same thing since day 1. If someone posts something he doesn't want to hear he goes on and on about everyone bashing him. Been happening since literally day 1. He gets more advice/feedback on this site then anyone else and because it's not what he wants to hear he complains that everyone is mean. He doesn't want to hear the his photos are underexposed or that he should start from the beginning <---- his words not mine. So what exactly does he want to learn if he doesn't want to hear what he's doing wrong??????? Oh thats right - he does a specialized form of photography that nobody understands.

 

[Vtec44]

Oh that's such BS. He's been doing the same thing since day 1. If someone posts something he doesn't want to hear he goes on and on about everyone bashing him.

Yep. He sent me a PM saying that I'm on the list of names that he will be reporting to the mods... over this post. Really?

 

[cgipson1]

Oh that's such BS. He's been doing the same thing since day 1. If someone posts something he doesn't want to hear he goes on and on about everyone bashing him.

Yep. He sent me a PM saying that I'm on the list of names that he will be reporting to the mods... over this post. Really?

Ditto.. I know I am on that list! He kept PM'ing me asking for help.. and would never respond to my replies.. claimed he wasn't receiving them. Whatever......

 

[KmH]

A list of names? Reporting to the Mods? Oh my!

 

[bazooka]

Ballistics, perhaps you missed out on his first threads. Let me catch you up. They ALL start out something like this...

PG posts photo for C&C.

We politely tell him what's wrong just like they would for anyone else.

PG can't believe how rude we are.

We point out that noone is being rude.

PG gets defensive.

So on and so forth.

It's like two countries at peace. One starts crying to the other one that they should stop attacking them when there are no attacks. After a few weeks of the constant crying, the other country gets tired of it and attacks.

 

[cgipson1]

Ballistics, perhaps you missed out on his first threads. Let me catch you up. They ALL start out something like this...

PG posts photo for C&C.

We politely tell him what's wrong just like they would for anyone else.

PG can't believe how rude we are.

We point out that noone is being rude.

PG gets defensive.

So on and so forth.

^^^ X 10 to the 10th!

 

[jake337]

Oh that's such BS. He's been doing the same thing since day 1. If someone posts something he doesn't want to hear he goes on and on about everyone bashing him.

Yep. He sent me a PM saying that I'm on the list of names that he will be reporting to the mods... over this post. Really?

Ditto.. I know I am on that list! He kept PM'ing me asking for help.. and would never respond to my replies.. claimed he wasn't receiving them. Whatever......

I've gotten some PM's too. Thanking me for the help. I must not have been tough enough!

 

[naptime]

yep. at first he was thanking me for being so helpful. and then, as soon as i said something that went against the coddling he wanted, he started pm'ing me about being rude and mean and that he was going to report me for not being nice, and he was going to put me on his ignore list. but he was going to give me one more chance before he took drastic measures.

and i was being helpful to the guy. offering him advice that had been given to me by others. and offering him LIFE advice.

but, as soon as i posted the video "why can't we befriends" to lighten the mood in his thread..

BAM.. i was the bad guy.


i have four or five ultimatum pm's from him. i won't violate the sanctity of a pm, but let's suffice to say they are a joke. they even had my 16 year old cracking up.


he CRAVES to be the victim. he needs it to function. it's his life force.

read any of his threads.

i guarantee you by the end of the first page, he is the victim under attack from the meanies.

and the first page always starts off with ADVICE.

but, it's not what he wants to hear, so he becomes the victim. and starts the drama.

and yes, childishly some gang up on him. myself included.

and what does he do.... he waves the flag becomes the martyr, and then when the smoke settles, he does it all over again.


he feeds off this. whether it's a depression issue, or just being a troll. he needs the drama. he craves it, he sucks it in like a vacuum.

 

[tirediron]

Oh that's such BS. He's been doing the same thing since day 1. If someone posts something he doesn't want to hear he goes on and on about everyone bashing him.

Yep. He sent me a PM saying that I'm on the list of names that he will be reporting to the mods... over this post. Really?

I didn't get a PM; does this mean I'm not one of the 'In' crowd? :er: