MEME

[Overread]

I now have an image in my mind of Schwetty holding a camera in one hand and hitting his head with a free hand over and over again as he tries to get his kids to copy for the shot

 

[cgipson1]

Cuz Schwetty can't photoshop worth a damn! Right, Robin?

 

[Overread]

So really, the use of emoticons, such as this: http://forums.unitedoperations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif
is also against forum rules since I don't have the copyright or the explicit permission from its' creator EVEN THOUGH it may be considered fair use. I would also assume that the direct embedding of YOUTUBE videos would also be against forum rules for the same reasons even thought the forum automatically FORCES the embedded video from any youtube link posted. Glad there is no ambiguity. http://www.utteraccess.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/sarcasm.gif

Please re-read the following two posts:
http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/photo-themes/292768-meme-4.html#post2661294
http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/photo-themes/292768-meme-4.html#post2661392
*those are direct post links, they show the same thread, but give them a second and they should auto link to the explanation posts in a moment)

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

 

[Ernicus]

I love me some buddy christ. he used to be my avatar on my old site for quite a while.

 

[o hey tyler]

So really, the use of emoticons, such as this: http://forums.unitedoperations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif
is also against forum rules since I don't have the copyright or the explicit permission from its' creator EVEN THOUGH it may be considered fair use. I would also assume that the direct embedding of YOUTUBE videos would also be against forum rules for the same reasons even thought the forum automatically FORCES the embedded video from any youtube link posted. Glad there is no ambiguity. http://www.utteraccess.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/sarcasm.gif

Pwnzored

 

[mjhoward]

I read both of those posts but there are dependencies between what you stated and the actual action that was taken. To quote you in BOTH posts "We allow a level of leniency with that rule when the images posted are clearly stated not to be the posters own work and might be of meme or commonly used photo nature" and "Typically a clear meme photo or something from ICANHAZCHEEZEBURGER is not going to be changed to a link".

The posted MEME's where VERY clearly MEME photos which were changed to links and ultimately led to the banning of a member. Sure the "reason" they were banned may have been public disagreement but had the rules remained consistent, the embedded photo wouldn't have been removed and nothing else would have happened. I'm just saying if there are going to be rules such as those, they should make sense and be consistent.

 

[Robin Usagani]

If this meme wins, it's an affront to the other nominees. Don't get me wrong, it's hilarious as hell, and I get the political message, but it does not belong in the photo of the month, in my humble opinion.

Compaq, do you know how hard it is to make THREE 2 year olds to slap their face all at the same time? It is almost as HARD as shooting those long shutter stars by invisible! I demand more RESPECT bro!

On the top of that, the chance of you having triplets is 1:8000. That means this shot is almost impossible!

 

[Overread]

The posted MEME's where VERY clearly MEME photos which were changed to links and ultimately led to the banning of a member. Sure the "reason" they were banned may have been public disagreement but had the rules remained consistent, the embedded photo wouldn't have been removed and nothing else would have happened. I'm just saying if there are going to be rules such as those, they should make sense and be consistent.

As I stated the choice of what counts and what does not generally comes down to the individual moderator/admin who mods a thread. As such there are always going to be minor cases where one mod might take a more strict or lax action as compared to what others might have. This is simply a case where one mod chose a stricter action.
We have discussed this behind the scenes, and typically we do respond to situations and adjust our practice when its clear that we've made a choice that the membership is unhappy with. Sometimes we are able to adjust or simply reaffirm our own working practice; other times we will be unable to. This is one case where we were able to re-address this situation and the policy is still very much as I've stated.

 

[Robin Usagani]

I now have an image in my mind of Schwetty holding a camera in one hand and hitting his head with a free hand over and over again as he tries to get his kids to copy for the shot

Pretty much... I also said "OH NO!" everytime I do a facepalm. Now they like to say that phrase.

 

[Ernicus]

The pretty much annoying thing of all of this is that people keep focusing on the memes instead of the challenging the moderators decision publicly versus privately. Can anyone not read or what. I see mountains being made of molehills, subjects matters being created, invented, or twisted for arguments sake.

It has nothing to do with the damn pictures, but the attitude and challenging nature of a decision made that was not a favored one. Bottom line.

If you don't like someones decision, discuss it privately, or let it go, or leave. Really simple.

/rant

 

[snowbear]

I generally avoid the drama but welcome back from your time-out, Schwetty.

 

[Robin Usagani]

Ernicus.. yes I challenged the moderator. We all know that is why I got banned. I wouldnt have challenged him if he hadn't edited my post. The cause is still because of posting a MEME. 7 day ban is pretty harsh too. I did not use disrespectful words. I was just trying to make a point.

 

[o hey tyler]

The pretty much annoying thing of all of this is that people keep focusing on the memes instead of the challenging the moderators decision publicly versus privately. Can anyone not read or what. I see mountains being made of molehills, subjects matters being created, invented, or twisted for arguments sake.

It has nothing to do with the damn pictures, but the attitude and challenging nature of a decision made that was not a favored one. Bottom line.

If you don't like someones decision, discuss it privately, or let it go, or leave. Really simple.

/rant

IMO, the only reason that the members can't publicly disagree with a mod is because the creator of the forum rules does not want room for negotiation, or any type of respectful dissent regardless of the subject matter.

Do you know what that sounds like on paper? An autocratic dictatorship.

 

[Ernicus]

Ernicus.. yes I challenged the moderator. We all know that is why I got banned. I wouldnt have challenged him if he hadn't edited my post. The cause is still because of posting a MEME.

No, it just happened to be a decision you decided to challenge, openly...which is bascially saying "F you and your decisions...I'll do what I want...and shove it in your face". Even if it was done sarcastically or humorously.

For example,

Had he edited some other post and you reacted the same, then the cause would still be you openly challenging a decision you didn't like, not the link or whatever it was that was edited.

This mis placed focus is what makes things like this spiral.

I've stayed out of it mostly because I think the entire thing is dumb, so that's about all I'm going to say on the matter.