Wow you guys were right......

[blackrose89]

Am I the only one that found this thread ironic?

Nope, you are not the only one!I think of myself as a newbie- I've only been here for, like, 10 months or so.

Well I was just stating how many have popped up since Christmas. Even clarified it wasn't a bad thing. What I said about need a noobie forum was just me trying to have a laugh with Mleek. I didn't really mean it but apparently it didn't come across well.

 

[BlackSheep]

Am I the only one that found this thread ironic?

Nope, you are not the only one!I think of myself as a newbie- I've only been here for, like, 10 months or so.

Well I was just stating how many have popped up since Christmas. Even clarified it wasn't a bad thing. What I said about need a noobie forum was just me trying to have a laugh with Mleek. I didn't really mean it but apparently it didn't come across well.

Oh sorry, I was not in any way slamming you, I love your posts and the progress you have made with your photography to date (and your art speaks for itself!). I was just responding to the mcwfarms post because I haven't been on for a few days, and wow there's all these new posters all of a sudden - and they are all critiquing each other....very odd to see.

 

[MTVision]

What they mean is that you, yourself are a NOOB... not a beginner, a NOOB. My God. Yes your post count is high, but you've been here like what, a month? Seriously.

On that note, please stop posting the same landscape photo for C&C, as an example of a pic with a P&S, etc. It's shown up in multiple threads... enough already.

Who cares if she's only been here a month? It's a month longer then most people stay!

 

[BlackSheep]

Agree ^
And who is this captainobvious person?

 

[JH100]

Am I the only one that found this thread ironic?

In what way?

What they mean is that you, yourself are a NOOB... not a beginner, a NOOB. My God. Yes your post count is high, but you've been here like what, a month? Seriously.

On that note, please stop posting the same landscape photo for C&C, as an example of a pic with a P&S, etc. It's shown up in multiple threads... enough already.

Wow, chill out. Basically everything she's posted in this thread has been in a joking manner.

 

[T4int3dInn0c3nc3]

If it makes anyone feel better Im a newbie and I definatly plan on staying here for a while

 

[Kerbouchard]

Pfft, I've been drafting the Post since I joined this hell hole. Just haven't gotten the last part down quite right.

I'm undecided between,

Regards,
George

And

Screw you and the horse you rode in on.

As soon as I make a decision, I'll storm out of here. Then I will post a thread demanding to have my account deleted. If that doesn't happen, I will keep posting to that thread complaining about it. If for some reason I get banned during the process, I will sign up under a new account in order to complain about it...because that's how I roll.

I just wish I could figure out which conclusion to go with...oh, well, c'est la vie.

 

[blackrose89]

When I first started posting here, I was very discouraged by the harsh CC, not just here, but other photography online communities. So I joined some "gentler" forums. And after about a week or two, I got bored. I felt like I wasn't getting better and it was showing. I just felt like what's the point of feedback if all I kept being told was how "awesome" and "genius" my photos were when I knew they weren't.

So, I decided to come back to here. To me, getting completely unfair, harsh criticism from time to time was worth it to actually learn rather then staying stale and not moving forward, which is what happens when CC is all positive IMO.

Well, I am in photography school, although not much on the technical side has been covered yet. So far, photographry terms, history and such. Next semester starts the lessons on compositions, excersizes, cameras, lighting, graded projects etc So pretty soon I won't need you suckers anymore!! (Just Kidding)

 

[Josh66]

I think half of it is knowing what to listen to and what to ignore.

 

[blackrose89]

I think half of it is knowing what to listen to and what to ignore.

I agree to a point (choosing to ignore half of what you just said LOL Just kidding). But I think a big part is being able to differentiate between technical CC and personal opinionated CC. "It does nothing for me" Or "I don't like those angles" IMO is a pretty worthless CC unless you have a foundation of reason as to why it does nothing for you or the angling is bad.

 

[Josh66]

I think half of it is knowing what to listen to and what to ignore.

I agree to a point (choosing to ignore half of what you just said LOL Just kidding). But I think a big part is being able to differentiate between technical CC and personal opinionated CC. "It does nothing for me" Or "I don't like those angles" IMO is a pretty worthless CC unless you have a foundation of reason as to why it does nothing for you or the angling is bad.

That's kind of what I meant. "Ignore" might be too strong. Disregard is better, I think.

If the person giving the critique doesn't know why they feel the way they do, how can you take it seriously?

 

[blackrose89]

I think half of it is knowing what to listen to and what to ignore.

I agree to a point (choosing to ignore half of what you just said LOL Just kidding). But I think a big part is being able to differentiate between technical CC and personal opinionated CC. "It does nothing for me" Or "I don't like those angles" IMO is a pretty worthless CC unless you have a foundation of reason as to why it does nothing for you or the angling is bad.

That's kind of what I meant. "Ignore" might be too strong. Disregard is better, I think.

If the person giving the critique doesn't know why they feel the way they do, how can you take it seriously?

I think another part that can make CC difficult is a big technical aspect is composition, which for a big part seems to be subjective and open to interpretation. What one photographer sees, another may not. You can post a photo for CC, ask about composition and almost each and every response will be different. I mean there are technical points of composition that are much more technical and not usually up for debate (or are not as often) such as you cut off part of the main subject, too much blank sky etc.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

Composition isn't technical. It's theory is a loose guide to application. It's more about "feel". The feel for "balance" and visual "weight" for example. There are no hard and fast rules because they are applied to every pictures variables. Every image is different, and because of this the "rules" are in flux.

 

[Josh66]

Composition isn't technical. It's theory is a loose guide to application. It's more about "feel". The feel for "balance" and visual "weight" for example. There are no hard and fast rules because they are applied to every pictures variables. Every image is different, and because of this the "rules" are in flux.

which for a big part seems to be subjective and open to interpretation.

If it's open for debate, it's not technical. 'Technical' things are either right or wrong.


Certain things do have a general consensus on what looks good or bad though... Like cutting off limbs at the joint - that usually doesn't look as pleasing as cutting it off between the joints...

 

[Tee]

I know two wives of co-workers who got DSLR's for christmas. Of the two, I'd bet a Big Mac one of the two will find her way to this forum. She's a big forum junkie, an expert on everything and a master of none. Big time love of gossip. When my buddy told her she could ask me for starting advice she friended me on Facebook. On Christmas night the trainwreck started. 75 snapshots being fueled by friends saying "great shots!" I kinda hinted to my friend she should check out online forums to post her work but didn't specifically mention this site by name. But, seeing as how this forum ranks #1 on most searches we should be seeing her "I'm a newbie but wanna go pro" intro post in 3...2...1....